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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 20:09:34 GMT
Politician = useless w%$£$%
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Post by AnnaLaw on Jan 14, 2013 20:31:32 GMT
I've decided that I'll vote in future - mark my paper 'none of the above'! But politics don't come into this. In the EU UK party members are members of other groups anyway, and this is not a party-political issue. So it doesn't make any difference which party your MEPs and MP belong to, keep polkitics out of it and just write.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 20:35:07 GMT
I've decided that I'll vote in future - mark my paper 'none of the above'! But politics don't come into this. In the EU UK party members are members of other groups anyway, and this is not a party-political issue. So it doesn't make any difference which party your MEPs and MP belong to, keep polkitics out of it and just write. Yes I have done, MP 7 MEP's and a lord. But unfortunately most MP's, MEP's are affiliated to a political party and tend to follow the party line.
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Post by Karma on Jan 14, 2013 20:36:44 GMT
Yes I have done, MP 7 MEP's and a lord. . can't you blackmail them then ???
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Post by samuelmunro on Jan 14, 2013 20:37:28 GMT
Martin Callanan is MEP for the North East (...of England that is) and his UK contact details are for Newcastle, hifi's neck of the woods
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 20:39:59 GMT
can't you blackmail them then ??? Hmm, ah got it. I know your a politician. Oppose this or I'll tell everyone your a politician. Can't think of a more embarrassing thing to have to admit to
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Post by hifistud on Jan 15, 2013 1:15:02 GMT
that is fantastic news and a great response. He needs to be on VTTV. The response was my MEP repeating the stance taken by Martin Callanan, so he's the one who should be on VTTV. I don't know if he'd accept as he is on the EU Parliament Public Health Committee so is probably in Brussels. But there is always Skype. Let's just say the wheels are in motion and have been for some time, but I just need to say that the time is not right as of the present moment. From the reply, though, it's obvious that someone has been briefing his office
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Post by esmecullen on Jan 15, 2013 9:16:34 GMT
wow a politician with some common sense and a conservative to boot seriously tho that is a great response................. well done
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Post by AnnaLaw on Jan 15, 2013 11:27:07 GMT
Not the same from a Lib-Dem MEP. In reply to my first letter she quoted the draft Tobacco Directive back to me and said that when an MA was obtained I'd be able to get ecigs on prescription. So I wrote back, stating facts more firmly and gave her links to a number of independant studies. She seems to be looking for any excuse to toe the party line from the reply I received today. I'm copying this to several forums. I have just received a second letter from my Lib-Dem MEP, the one that said I could get nicotine on prescription in order to stop smoking, the one who ignored everything I said. I think I need to write again, this time finding studies addressing the arguments she uses this time round! I ask everybody in the SE to write to her addressing these points as well. Here is the letter:- She misses the point that we don't want to stop using nicotine and a delivery system that isn't always cigalikes and pre-filled cartos, and that kids see ecigs as uncool, or that cigarettes aren't being banned so the more who use ecigs the better, or that all contents are approved for medical use already!
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Post by hifistud on Jan 15, 2013 11:48:27 GMT
It might be worthwhile pointing out to her that the mechanism by which the vapour is produced is identical in each "different" type of e-cig - it's only the cosmetics and capacity which changes.
Also worth pointing out that propylene glycol has been used for decades as a vapour enhancer in theatrical haze and fog machines, has been extensively tested for ill-effects and has been judged more than safe enough for acute usage over many years, and that it is routinely vaporised and pumped into hospital atmospheres as a germicide. There are no long-term deleterious health implications for it. Also, although a very small minority of people have a sensitivity to PG, those people find that a Glycerine based e-juice removes any sensitivity symptoms. Their numbers are very few.
On the effect of e-cigs on human health, it is glaringly obvious that, with a health risk profile that is less than one percent of traditional cigarettes, as has been demonstrated in many studies, it would be preferable for someone to use an e-cig rather than burn tobacco and inhale the smoke. This is not rocket science.
Give those a try.
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Post by fred on Apr 11, 2013 14:15:21 GMT
AnnaLaw can you let us know which MEP this is please? The conservative one, who is taking lead from Martin Callanan.
Cheers
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Post by AnnaLaw on Apr 11, 2013 15:10:33 GMT
Sorry, just seen this. Of course you can.
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Post by AnnaLaw on Apr 11, 2013 15:16:03 GMT
AnnaLaw can you let us know which MEP this is please? The conservative one, who is taking lead from Martin Callanan.
Cheers SE MEP Nirj Deva. He's takung the lead from Martin Callanan. Since that letter was sent the standard letters seem to have changed a little (apart from Labour form letters). The Conservative ones seem to show a tiny bit more awareness.
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Post by fred on Apr 11, 2013 15:48:11 GMT
AnnaLaw can you let us know which MEP this is please? The conservative one, who is taking lead from Martin Callanan.
Cheers SE MEP Nirj Deva. He's takung the lead from Martin Callanan. Since that letter was sent the standard letters seem to have changed a little (apart from Labour form letters). The Conservative ones seem to show a tiny bit more awareness. Cheers AnnaLaw - I can add him to the list I'm compiling - if they're taking their lead from Callanan, I'm sure thats got to be better for us, than them sitting on the fence.
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