Confused with PG Nic / VG Nic / Base Nic

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Mar 1, 2013 22:55:56 GMT Moggy said:

Just done my base setup order with LT, 100ml of 54mgPG and a collection of dripper bottles/syringes. Didn't go for their kit as I have plenty of disposable gloves and don't really want sharp syringes.

Just deciding where to get flavourings, I am most interested in coffee/toffee/caramel and the basics for some MVC (well you HAVE to have your own custard )

Mono

if you want to start off, Liberty-flights have the best overall selection for flavourngs. They stock TPA, F'art and DV. Large selection. Depends what stuff you want to mix since Frogster stock capella. Postmodernsmoking, ecigwizard and cupcakeworld also stock a good selection.

Did you get PG/VG as well for dilution?

[Moggy]

I already have a 200ml bottle of VG, do I need MORE PG ?

[Perpetua]

Are you buying a PG Nicotine Base and what finished percentage are you after Mono?

[stewarty]

Mar 1, 2013 23:16:10 GMT Moggy said:

I already have a 200ml bottle of VG, do I need MORE PG ?

Yes for the strength you are looking for you will have to add PG I bought this one and a lot of other members have too works out much cheaper than buying the 100ml bottles and it has a good shelf life especially if you store it somewhere cool

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140608454423?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[Deleted]

Ok ...

The nic base forms the starting point. You can obtain it in PG or VG. You have PG at 54mg. You need to dilute this whilst adding flavour. You need flavour and potenially VG.

You need to state which target juice you are seeking at which strength. You still need more PG depending on your target.

For example for a target 70/30 pg/vg mix using PG nic base you will need

NIC base (in your case PG not VG)
PG (nic minus flavouring = the 70% total)
Flavours - % of the total PG content
VG (total pg after nic, flavourings and neutral Pg minus 70%)


The target mg will determine the volume of the nic base and alter the values ... e.g. 12mg target will contain less nic base than than 18mg

Depending on the amount of flavours used, you may need to alter your neutral PG.

With your PG base and VG diluent you are looking at a heavy VG based juice. thats ok if that is your intention and the figures are reversed with your flavourings constituting the PG element.

Breaktru is your friend.

[Moggy]

Ooh Purfleet, wonder if I can collect. They are just up the road

Aiming for 70PG/30VG, I have found that quenches my TH requirement. I'll get a bottle of that in too, thanks Stew....and Ash...and Perp..and and and

[stewarty]

Mono to make 30ml of 70 / 30 juice @ 16mg strength with 15% flavour you will need

PG nic base 8.89 ml (9)
PG 7.61 ml (8)
VG 9 ml
Flavour 4.5 ml

Most people are not exact in measuring as it will be almost impossible to measure 8.89 on a syringe acurately so I head for just touching 9 which is near enough with 54 mg base

[Moggy]

I gotcha, posting here and playing with Breaktru-ejuice at same time.....oh and stroking Smokey else he attacks my Vamo.

[Deleted]

Take a look at the member recipes in the mixology thread...

Here's one of mine as an example

[Moggy]

Well I've spent enough tonight, Capella Caramel, Expresso, Vanilla Custard on the way, just need some French Vanilla and wondering how much sweetener as I've seen a lot use it in their recipes.

Wife's birthday today (Saturday) gonna be out and about most of the weekend.

Mono

[Perpetua]

Mar 2, 2013 0:27:57 GMT Moggy said:

Well I've spent enough tonight, Capella Caramel, Expresso, Vanilla Custard on the way, just need some French Vanilla and wondering how much sweetener as I've seen a lot use it in their recipes.

Wife's birthday today (Saturday) gonna be out and about most of the weekend.

Mono

Depends what sweetener you go for Mono, EM for me I find doesn't make much difference to the overall sweetness, TPA's which is Sucralose based does. Personally I prefer it, but a couple of drops in 10ml is enough for me.

Enjoy your weekend, hope your good lady does as well.

[Moggy]

Was looking at the Stevia thread, could be a double header and use it in my coffee too. Have you ever tried the stuff from Holland and Barrett ? I think it's 90% pure with a anti-clogging agent to help keep it powdery.

[Perpetua]

I'd stick with the 100% pure stuff myself Mono . . . and having had the misfortune to work for H&B, I wouldn't buy anything from them on principle. Utter rip off the prices they charge for their products.

[Moggy]

Mar 2, 2013 11:31:51 GMT Perpetua said:

I'd stick with the 100% pure stuff myself Mono . . . and having had the misfortune to work for H&B, I wouldn't buy anything from them on principle. Utter rip off the prices they charge for their products.

But the banana chips cooked in honey are amazing !!!

[Perpetua]

Mar 2, 2013 11:38:17 GMT Moggy said:

Mar 2, 2013 11:31:51 GMT Perpetua said:

I'd stick with the 100% pure stuff myself Mono . . . and having had the misfortune to work for H&B, I wouldn't buy anything from them on principle. Utter rip off the prices they charge for their products.

But the banana chips cooked in honey are amazing !!!

Bah humbug, like chewing sweet cardboard those are.