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Post by Chrissie on Aug 16, 2013 8:54:29 GMT
Hello & welcome Jim I agree with those who have said you will need 2 batteries as you will have nothing to use while your one battery is on charge - even a 650mAh battery will take several hours to charge.
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Post by bigjim on Aug 16, 2013 17:59:35 GMT
Yowser, thanks for all the support Ok that's it, decision made - Count me in! I've just placed an order for the above mentioned Mini Pro, and 2x 10ml bottles of juice (RY4 18mg and basic Cherry 24mg) from myEpack; Total Cost £26.92 inc shipping. That's a shade over what a week's worth of fags would cost me, so doesn't seem too much ay? The juices are basically the same size as taster bottles as far as I can see - cheers for the heads-up on my tastes changing to Dragon & Perpetua, as you can see I basically went for one that should help me ease into the more tasty flavours, and one as a backup at a higher strength. I'm guessing that if I really start craving some fags I can drip some of the stronger cherry into the RY4 to beef it up a touch but I imagine for a week or so this should last me. I totally hear what you're saying (particularly Chrissie & RAW) about requiring 2x batteries and it seems eminently sensible - Going by what I've read I think you're right. I intend to order a second battery next weekend once I've had a week to get accustomed to it (I'll possibly pick up one of those blisters that Gun linked above for the battery, and so that I can use the plastic tank that comes with it as a secondary tank for emergency 24mg cravings while keeping the pyrex Kanger for regular use. I've gotta be honest - That Kanger tank just looks cool as t**s and I don't mind admitting I'm shallow enough that I do like stuff that looks cool. Also the simplicity of taking it apart, cleaning, and the ease of regular maintenance does appeal to me, but I couldn't find a kit with that tank and 2x batteries.. :/ My computer at work sits under my desk so it'll be easy to discretely recharge during the day via USB in-between breaks, so for a week I believe I can make do with only 1x batt, but I certainly don't intend to make a lifestyle choice out of it.. For that reason I'm putting off the second batt until next week when I'll order a few more 10ml bottles while I'm in the "experimental phase" so to speak, but rest assured I'll definitely get a backup batt or 2. @gun - BTW mate, I appreciate the tester bottle link to JooseJuice, but I'm still clueless as to what PG/VS stand for, and what they mean.. I see juices advertised with differing ratios, recipes that make mention of PG & VG values, but what in layman's terms does it mean? I did do a forum search just now but I didn't find an explanation.. I think that might be a really good resource once my tastebuds settle back into some kind of normality - Damn that reminds me, in a few weeks I'll have to change my favourite dinner recipes too! Ok dudes - Thanks again for all the help & advice - I'll come back & update you all how it goes; When the kit arrives, how my first few goes play out, and hell who knows, some day reading how my experience went might help someone else not err on the side of caution as long as I did (to be honest, you could equally argue the opposite - that *not* making the decision is more risky but I'll leave that for another day! )
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Post by dinamic22 on Aug 16, 2013 18:32:22 GMT
PG = Propylene Glycol its used for throat hit, VG = vegetable glycerin this is what is used to give the vapour, vendors sell juices at 70% PG/30% VG mix, or mainly PG as many ex smokers want the throat hit. Thats about the span of my knowledge on this as i'm fairly new myself but someone more experienced will be along soon to better advise you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 18:45:08 GMT
Looks like you were already on the ball & now you're sorted. I'll just add, hello & welcome to the forum, Jim & don't forget, get back ups for your back ups, battery, charger & clearos/tanks! Happy vaping!
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Post by lal on Aug 16, 2013 18:57:10 GMT
If you like the ry4, I've got a bottle of dekang 18 mg (about 25ml) here that I can stick in the post to you , I don't like it! Pm me if you want it. (No charge)
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Post by djs on Aug 16, 2013 19:17:46 GMT
Wow! what an intro. How much work have you put in... It's clear you get the jist, so I'll add a few comments and take or leave them if they've either been said before or ... whatever ... I love the £19.99 myepack kit....and I'll tell you why. Not the battery....oh no, they are a dozen a dime (even if it looks cool) Not the charger or gift box (cue "bucket"...) But The MINI PROTANK. I love it. By buying that kit, you are getting i.m.o. the best small clearomiser/tank on the market and 5 replacement heads! Deal of the decade. (well, deal of the month....) - - - anyway - - - you smoke 3 or 4 tiny packs a week of rolling....about the same as me (2 x medium) (a long time ago....) and you want to try vaping. Your plan is excellent. Sadly, £20 ain't going to do it. You could try the blister pack (sure) but the Protank mini is far superior.... Get the mini kit and give it a go. If you like it, buy another battery and probably another clearomiser....Unless you want to switch 100% immediately, you can acclimatise yourself then invest a little more. - - PS, if you did buy it, and love it (which you might) then you could add a mini eGo battery for £10 and another protank or even an evod or two. Running costs are cheap once you are up and...um..running. £2.00 replacement heads (weekly, maybe, possibly more/less) and £5-10 on good e-liquid. Ask away if I've confused in any way.
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Post by djs on Aug 16, 2013 19:25:10 GMT
PS - I'm never going back.
Do it for your health. Seriously. I've spent a small fortune, but most of it is long-term purchases.
You know what else? I can get through a day on a patch as easy as falling off a log. Now, some people might find this curious, (because they can't or have never tried, or wish to buy a rip-off Pharmaceutical product) but if you are only addicted to nicotine (as opposed to nicotine + 4,000 chemicals) should the world end and the darkness of the e-cig ban take over this land, I could survive on £2 patches. Not going to do it though....
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Post by bigjim on Aug 16, 2013 19:51:17 GMT
Looks like you were already on the ball & now you're sorted. I'll just add, hello & welcome to the forum, Jim & don't forget, get back ups for your back ups, battery, charger & clearos/tanks! Happy vaping! Thanks jess - Tbh I spent hours composing that first post, and each question lead me into their own little research missions (ha! ) each time refining what I was trying to ask, and in all honesty that was a massive help, so that when the answers came, and the other little titbits of info from everyone it made much more sense than my previous endless, aimless sessions trying to bone-up. Hehe backup-backup-backup - deal! Oh wow - Thanks Lal I've no idea if I'll like it yet, it's meant to be a sweeter caramellish sort of tobacco which I'm hoping will help me switch over to a nicer overall juice so if I like then it I'll definitely pop you a wee PM over - Thanks again, that's such a nice gesture for the new guy. Cheers Dinamic, that makes sense. I thought it might be something to do with the relative strengths, but it seems then that it's more about the consistency of the carrier fluid as it were, giving you more control over how it vapourises. Nice info to have, and lets me experiment with those testers that Gun linked me to earlier knowing what I'm changing when I specify certain values - nice!
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Post by dinamic22 on Aug 16, 2013 19:58:53 GMT
You're welcome
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Post by fred on Aug 16, 2013 20:03:38 GMT
bigjim - have you got either replacement heads or wick & wire (to rebuild) in your master plan? The wicks will gunk up at some point, and start to taste funky. If you choose replacement heads over wick & wire, do not throw out your used heads. You may turn your hand to rebuilding them at a later date, or someone somewhere will make use of them But you will need to replace or rebuild in the not so distant future. Oh, & Kudos to you. If only everyone did as much research as you have - you've got yourself off to a winner's start
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Post by bigjim on Aug 16, 2013 20:24:45 GMT
Sorry i missed a few while replying.. Heya djs - Thanks for the warm welcome matie, yes I went with the Kanger mini pro kit plus a couple of small juice bottles for starters - the thing just looks quality and considering it goes for an easy 10-15 quid on it's own, it seemed like a bargain-tastic little kit to start off with - For obvious reasons you want your first experience to be as good as possible, right? I've got to thank Richo for posting the thread on the second page of this forum as I would not have stumbled upon it by myself.. fred - For sure mate, yes I do intend to get to the stage when I can do my own coils, if only for the self-sustainability thing, constantly making small purchases seems a bit inefficient tbh (blimey look at me, I don't even have it yet & I'm planning my life out! ) but at the start I recognise I'll be having to get used to it, finding a juice & strength I like, that sort of thing so several small purchases will be something I live with for a while. Also while the act of re-coiling seems simple enough, I recognise that I'm still not 100% clued up on the resistance vs power, how you rebuild a coil to control the resistance, that kind of thing so it's more a mid range goal tbh - I'm excited by the possibilities, but I'm gonna keep my sights set realistically for the time-being. The 5x coils that come with the kit should (hopefully) last me a month or so, in which time I hope to become much more familiar than I am now - everything I know now is just theory atm, and I don't want to make the mistake of biting off more than I can chew too soon - but yes, I'm definitely factoring in replacement coils into my running costs.
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Post by fred on Aug 16, 2013 20:43:07 GMT
Doh - didn't realise the kit came with spare heads Sounds like you're set for a while
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Post by Chrissie on Aug 16, 2013 21:10:29 GMT
Just to add a tad more about e-liquids, many vendors give a choice of the % of PG & VG as well as nicotine strength. My favourite PG/VG mix is 505/50 - good throat hit, tons of vapour & good flavour
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Post by chykensa on Aug 16, 2013 23:07:35 GMT
bigjim - don't panic about the recoiling thing yet, you will have enough Kanger atomiser (atty) heads to see you well past a month anyway. And it really is easy - just pop a post in the Rebuildables board on the forum and someone will send you links to YouTube videos and give you all the advice you need. I only got into recoiling my own heads about 2 months ago, and it really is much easier than I though it would be, there is a learning curve sure, but once you are over that, £10 worth of wire and wick will set you up for about 3 months easily. My advice - if you like the Protank setup when it arrives - simple - buy another one. You get a second battery, a second Protank, and a second charger. Sorted. Andy
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Post by chykensa on Aug 16, 2013 23:17:48 GMT
bigjim - don't be too put off by the lack of response to your first post, there is the annual Vapefest in Tamworth this weekend, so all the forum members who are lucky enough to live near enough are there. That of course means you are left with the social outcasts like me!! Normal service will be resumed by Monday evening once the freebies are secreted away and the hangovers slept off!!
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