Nicotine absorption scientific report

[toots]

This scientific report looks to be quite interesting. Lots of reading with diagrams and graphs so you'd need to set a bit of time aside to read it. I've briefly looked through it and read the top part so far, need a large cuppa before I carry on reading lol

Dr Farsalinos was involved in this report so should be good, and we know it will be accurate if he was involved.

Here you go guys: www.nature.com/srep/2014/140226/srep04133/full/srep04133.html

Happy reading

[Deleted]

I've got about half way down....just skim reading. Looks good. In favour of anything but cig alikes


Yay

[djs]

Gonna read....



Seems excellent.

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One thing I already knew was that an evod kicks nicotine backside compared to Mr "we promise to give you 2 packs of cigarettes for £3.99" and his plastic sticks of bull.

[toots]

Feb 28, 2014 16:08:06 GMT @johanino said:

I've got about half way down....just skim reading. Looks good. In favour of anything but cig alikes


Yay

Yes, and we already knew by our own vaping experience/s that the newer generation e-cigs are far more efficient than the 1st generation devices. But it's good to actually see it proven in a scientific report.

Interesting to note that it takes around 35 minutes of vaping to achieve the same level of nicotine in the bloodstream that one cigarette produces in a few minutes.

Personal Revelation: So after vaping 35 minutes I've only had one fag (but without the other 4000 toxins), plus as I have reduced my nicotine level from 18mg to 13mg then I haven't even had one fag in that 35 minutes. I used to smoke 18mg fags before. Sounds good to me

[aliscampbell]

Great find, explains why I was having problems with 5 min work vape breaks. Also sent to my other half who thinks I'm vaping a lot!!

[Deleted]

this study supports the need for higher levels of nicotine-containing liquids (approximately 50?mg/ml) in order to deliver nicotine more effectively and approach the nicotine-delivery profile of tobacco cigarettes

[DiscoDes]

I referred to a similar report from Smoking Canada in previous posts saying that on average a smoker gets 18ng/ml of nicotine in the bloodstream from a cigarette and that for the same number of puffs a vaper using 20mg liquid gets about 6ng/ml or 33% the nicotine of a tobacco cigarette.

This is one of the reasons why Vype E-cigs are sold with around 40mg strength, to satify the nicotine cravings of a smoker.

aliscampbell this is why it is often said if you only have a short time to get your nicotine "fix" to use a 36mg (or higher) liquid.

[djs]

Feb 28, 2014 16:31:29 GMT toots said:

Personal Revelation: So after vaping 35 minutes I've only had one fag (but without the other 4000 toxins), plus as I have reduced my nicotine level from 18mg to 13mg then I haven't even had one fag in that 35 minutes. I used to smoke 18mg fags before. Sounds good to me

I don't know whether to laugh, cry, take up smoking or quit vaping.

I never vape for longer than 5 minutes, so now I'm stumped.

[Deleted]

I dread to think when I failed miserably and emptied my pockets on corner shop lookalikes what the comparison of those crap things is to using a decent delivery system ie provari with a decent head or a mech mod firing up on a well built atty. The irony is, after 45 years smoking their filth I have found it easy even on 18 mg now 11-12mg.I can't help but come to the conclusion that this is all about money from selling crap but producing profit. By 2016 I am sure I will be free of this addiction but others wont have the choice I have had to attain cessation.

[djs]

Feb 28, 2014 17:00:58 GMT DiscoDes said:

I referred to a similar report from Smoking Canada in previous posts saying that on average a smoker gets 18mg of nicotine from a cigarette and that for the same number of puffs a vaper using 20mg liquid gets about 6mg or 33% the nicotine of a tobacco cigarette.

I think this is all good news.

But, I am mystified.

How does a smoker "get" 18mg from one cigarette that is rated by the tobacco company (on the box) as 1mg?

I read the ECTA Canada report and it all made sense. 25 puffs on an evod (36mg) was 5.2mg YIELD.

30 puffs on 3 cigarettes rated at 1.0mg is 3mg (give or take the personal smoking style).

HELP!

[DiscoDes]

Feb 28, 2014 17:31:55 GMT djs said:

Feb 28, 2014 17:00:58 GMT DiscoDes said:

I referred to a similar report from Smoking Canada in previous posts saying that on average a smoker gets 18mg of nicotine from a cigarette and that for the same number of puffs a vaper using 20mg liquid gets about 6mg or 33% the nicotine of a tobacco cigarette.

I think this is all good news.

But, I am mystified.

How does a smoker "get" 18mg from one cigarette that is rated by the tobacco company (on the box) as 1mg?

I read the ECTA Canada report and it all made sense. 25 puffs on an evod (36mg) was 5.2mg YIELD.

30 puffs on 3 cigarettes rated at 1.0mg is 3mg (give or take the personal smoking style).

HELP!

djs WELL SPOTTTED!

I have changed my post and re-read the report it expresses the results as ng (nano grams) of Nicotine per ml blood, not mg (Milligrams).

Here's a part extract:

"one tobacco cigarette in 5 minutes led to an increase in plasma nicotine levels from 2.10?ng/ml to 18.80?ng/ml. Projection of the findings by Vansickel et al to our data is displayed in Figure 4. After 5 minutes of EC use, plasma nicotine levels were substantially lower compared to smoking one tobacco cigarette (almost 3-fold lower compared to new- and 4-fold lower compared to first-generation device). Plasma nicotine levels were equal between tobacco cigarette use at 5 minutes and new generation EC device at 35 minutes"

[djs]

It's mostly Greek to me DiscoDes , but I always feel better when you are around.

All I know is that peak plasma levels will basically never reach that of a ciggy. We are all maintaining a lower level than smoking, but keeping topped up enough to stay off the fags.

[aliscampbell]

Feb 28, 2014 17:25:07 GMT djs said:

Feb 28, 2014 16:31:29 GMT toots said:

Personal Revelation: So after vaping 35 minutes I've only had one fag (but without the other 4000 toxins), plus as I have reduced my nicotine level from 18mg to 13mg then I haven't even had one fag in that 35 minutes. I used to smoke 18mg fags before. Sounds good to me

I don't know whether to laugh, cry, take up smoking or quit vaping.

I never vape for longer than 5 minutes, so now I'm stumped.

This made me laugh, as long as you are happy with your vaping then it's all good.

I think the report highlights why the EC are bonkers and may also help us newbie vapers find a satisfying vape....till the changes anyway.

[Bluefish]

And that's the Nicoteine of which we care not a jot about in regards to health, or I should say ill health, it's all the other chemicals that we don't get that matter.