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Post by boyofford on Jul 12, 2014 11:27:27 GMT
Which would you go for on a budget? Currently in sweepstake at work I've got good chance of winning, got Germany!
Only occurred to me last night that might be just the excuse I've needed to get a 30+ watt mod.
Had been looking at fasttech dna clones and foical clones, still couldn't justify the spend really, and am bit bothered that might get a lemon.
Read about the sx330 chip couple of times and assumed it would be out of my price range but seen preorder at local shop which will be in my price range if win sweepstake, well just about but for explaining to Mrs it will be!
It's a ipv2 50 watt....if I don't go for that then the clouper 30 watt seems to get good reviews.
What should I get?
My mvp is permanently set at 11watt and when I drip I tend to be at a calculated 25 watt ish, sometimes higher on mech mod.
Would be good to have regulated high watts for me so can turn up and down as I want instead of having to recoil.
Any thoughts? Need to buy something so stop wasting time on net lol.
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Post by davetherayon on Jul 12, 2014 11:45:41 GMT
I have a Fasttech clone Hana Modz and a Cloupor clone Cana Modz (one letter ain't gonna make a difference, lol) and though the latter was a long time coming due to demand, and obviously more expensive than the Fasttech, I'd recommend the Cloupor version. It's made from thicker metal, has a nice heft the Fasttech one lacks, the finish is better quality, has the protective shield over the electronics conspicuously missing on the other one, and the display is centred (guess which one is wonky!) Coming from a safety perspective, I'd rather toot on something that looks less thrown together than the Fasttech. I do use it, but it's on a short leash and NEVER gets charged when I'm afk, and the atty is always detached overnight. Too much hassle for a mod!
Edit : the Cloupor was from elev8vape, might want to email them to find out how long the queue time is before committing if you're thinking of buying it.
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Post by boyofford on Jul 12, 2014 11:52:03 GMT
I have a Fasttech clone Hana Modz and a Cloupor clone Cana Modz (one letter ain't gonna make a difference, lol) and though the latter was a long time coming due to demand, and obviously more expensive than the Fasttech, I'd recommend the Cloupor version. It's made from thicker metal, has a nice heft the Fasttech one lacks, the finish is better quality, has the protective shield over the electronics conspicuously missing on the other one, and the display is centred (guess which one is wonky!) Coming from a safety perspective, I'd rather toot on something that looks less thrown together than the Fasttech. I do use it, but it's on a short leash and NEVER gets charged when I'm afk, and the atty is always detached overnight. Too much hassle for a mod! Seen few mentions of people getting the fasttech ones with scratches, not what you want when it's new eh. And sure I read that some where just throwing the volts through unregulated when battery power gets low, but can't find where I read it or even if it was fasttech version ! Everything baring one item I've got from fasttech has been good, but not bought out with electronics....and putting out 30watts the wire does need to be up to it like you say.
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Post by boyofford on Jul 12, 2014 11:55:32 GMT
Edit : the Cloupor was from elev8vape, might want to email them to find out how long the queue time is before committing if you're thinking of buying it. Seen clouper locally for 70 quid in stock, will shop around if go for that but good to be able to take back if something is wrong with it easily. They've been good with something else that was faulty I took back.
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Post by davetherayon on Jul 12, 2014 11:57:23 GMT
boyofford one thing about the Cloupor chip, that's been tested and I can verify from experience is that below about 60% battery charge the wattage it states it's delivering is ... bullshit. It just dumps the battery on the atty once it gets to that point! Ok so the solution is to keep the battery on over 60% but it's not very good QA. Cloupor tho have been responsive to concerns about design, there was an issue with the first batch where the 510 pin was so wide it shorted out on some attys, the one I received has a smaller 510 pin so they've fixed that. Again if you decide to order, ask them about the battery dumping issue, that shit needs to be sorted.
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Post by davetherayon on Jul 12, 2014 12:00:33 GMT
In fact if you can find a cloupor in a b&m, take along a 18650 battery you know to be on low charge, swap it in, and fire up an atty with low wattage. If it vapes without overheating signs you got a good one Anotheredit : Though it took a long time to arrive, the Cloupor I got from elev8vapes was tested before despatch, and at current exchange rates cost me £40 including shipping. £70 sounds a bit ouch.
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Post by boyofford on Jul 12, 2014 12:04:12 GMT
In fact if you can find a cloupor in a b&m, take along a 18650 battery you know to be on low charge, swap it in, and fire up an atty with low wattage. If it vapes without overheating signs you got a good one Good tip, how low would be good to test with you reckon? Is that a fault they are known for then? Cheers. Edit- just saw your other post, so below 60 %...... 3.5v maybe?
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Post by davetherayon on Jul 12, 2014 12:07:18 GMT
60% seems to be the cutoff point below which the regulation just says byebye. So 50% would be a good test point. Take along an atty like an iclear, not much metal to dissipate heat so you can tell pretty quick if it's getting overheated, if it's loaded with a lowish-resistance coil (1 to 1.5 ohms) it should warm up pretty damn quick if the mod is battery dumping.
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Post by boyofford on Jul 12, 2014 12:09:50 GMT
Anotheredit : Though it took a long time to arrive, the Cloupor I got from elev8vapes was tested before despatch, and at current exchange rates cost me £40 including shipping. £70 sounds a bit ouch. That's great price...if decide to go for it then will look into that. The sx330 chip mod I mentioned is on sale for £67 ish... Wondering if will get buyers remorse if get a 30watts device when could of got 50watt with winnings.
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Post by davetherayon on Jul 12, 2014 12:11:30 GMT
I can't vouch for the sx (STAY AWAY FROM ME VAPEMAIL URGE AAAAGHHHH)
but it's tempting. (STAY AWAY FROM ME VAPEMAIL URGE AAAAGHHHH)
(STAY AWAY FROM ME VAPEMAIL URGE AAAAGHHHH)
(googles sx330 mods)
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Post by boyofford on Jul 12, 2014 12:11:32 GMT
Off to do some gardening while can, back in a bit, cheers bud. If don't win then still get a prize that would just about cover clouper if could get for price you said.
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 12, 2014 12:16:14 GMT
DNA clones: If you can solder, get the box from FT £12.31 and a real DNA30 from StealthVape £41.29 and Charging Board from BarginVapour £10-11 and some better wire from sBay £2. All prices inc shipping, if you want to let me know and I will dig out the links. DNA vs SX350: The DNA in probably higher quality, doesn't push the power to much for it hardware and does lots of battery monitoring, but it's Achilles heel is no reverse battery protection and you can kill one putting the battery in the wrong way round. SX350: Less wiring, more power, optional reverse battery protection (have read this has other side effects on PotV), but I wouldn't be as confident with its reliability especially that they keeping boosting the power beyond the original design and there are quite a few people with them failing. The whole releasing updates that allow more power is odd to me as it's the hardware that actually limits this and the hardware doesn't change with the updates. DNA clone boards: The hardest thing is knowing which one you are going to get, the best ones are probably excellent value, but are the worst ones safe? The problem davetherayon describes with it going passthrough at 60 % battery defeats on of the main benefits of consistent vape across your battery life, if I had that I would swap the board for a real one. Just my opinion.
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Post by boyofford on Jul 12, 2014 14:19:29 GMT
DNA clones: If you can solder, get the box from FT £12.31 and a real DNA30 from StealthVape £41.29 and Charging Board from BarginVapour £10-11 and some better wire from sBay £2. All prices inc shipping, if you want to let me know and I will dig out the links. I have thought about it, though my soldering skills are very rusty having not done since school. Even thought might just get one of their clones, see how it goes and swap out the board/wires/charging board later if have problemsDNA vs SX350: The DNA in probably higher quality, doesn't push the power to much for it hardware and does lots of battery monitoring, but it's Achilles heel is no reverse battery protection and you can kill one putting the battery in the wrong way round. If I mostly use at 20-35watts and maybe occasionally go to max for a chuckle do you reckon the sx350 would be ok..... guessing to early to tell on this?SX350: Less wiring, more power, optional reverse battery protection (have read this has other side effects on PotV), but I wouldn't be as confident with its reliability especially that they keeping boosting the power beyond the original design and there are quite a few people with them failing. The whole releasing updates that allow more power is odd to me as it's the hardware that actually limits this and the hardware doesn't change with the updates. By hardware do you mean the wires or the board itself? Think I need to do more reading on the sx350 as not done too much/couldn't find much. maybe have a sniff around PotVDNA clone boards: The hardest thing is knowing which one you are going to get, the best ones are probably excellent value, but are the worst ones safe? The problem davetherayon describes with it going passthrough at 60 % battery defeats on of the main benefits of consistent vape across your battery life, if I had that I would swap the board for a real one. Still early days with the clones and the sx350 I guess, did see a burnt out genuine dna on facbook recently, culpret seeem ed to be a trapped/frayed wire in the end.
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 12, 2014 14:30:23 GMT
DNA clones: If you can solder, get the box from FT £12.31 and a real DNA30 from StealthVape £41.29 and Charging Board from BarginVapour £10-11 and some better wire from sBay £2. All prices inc shipping, if you want to let me know and I will dig out the links. I have thought about it, though my soldering skills are very rusty having not done since school. Even thought might just get one of their clones, see how it goes and swap out the board/wires/charging board later if have problemsDNA vs SX350: The DNA in probably higher quality, doesn't push the power to much for it hardware and does lots of battery monitoring, but it's Achilles heel is no reverse battery protection and you can kill one putting the battery in the wrong way round. If I mostly use at 20-35watts and maybe occasionally go to max for a chuckle do you reckon the sx350 would be ok..... guessing to early to tell on this?SX350: Less wiring, more power, optional reverse battery protection (have read this has other side effects on PotV), but I wouldn't be as confident with its reliability especially that they keeping boosting the power beyond the original design and there are quite a few people with them failing. The whole releasing updates that allow more power is odd to me as it's the hardware that actually limits this and the hardware doesn't change with the updates. By hardware do you mean the wires or the board itself? Think I need to do more reading on the sx350 as not done too much/couldn't find much. maybe have a sniff around PotVDNA clone boards: The hardest thing is knowing which one you are going to get, the best ones are probably excellent value, but are the worst ones safe? The problem davetherayon describes with it going passthrough at 60 % battery defeats on of the main benefits of consistent vape across your battery life, if I had that I would swap the board for a real one. Still early days with the clones and the sx350 I guess, did see a burnt out genuine dna on facbook recently, culpret seeem ed to be a trapped/frayed wire in the end.
Cheers bud. By hardware I mean the boards and particularly the components used, it their regulators were upto providing 100 w (that whats in the pipeline) why did they start at 30 w. I didn't capture the link form PotV, IIRC the guy was having battery problems and fixed them by switching back from reverse battery protection. On those boards you have to put the positive that goes to the 510 into different holes on the circuit board to use reverse batt proct or not. Got to take the dog for walkies now, back later
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Post by davetherayon on Jul 12, 2014 14:33:12 GMT
The thing is we vapers can be our own worst enemies, especially the youtubers. "This mod is rated to run at 0.5 ohms, how does it do with 0.3 ohms? Ossum!" Good grief, use ohms law youtubers o.0
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