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Post by GunJack on Jul 18, 2014 5:45:38 GMT
![icon_doh](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/1zDYnTonLLlno4L4TSWU.gif) this has got to be a wind-up.... SNUS is the biggest single-country success story in THR, why on earth would the Swedes give up on it now?? Makes no sense at all Even though that is true, WHO have gotten their claws into Sweden ,the Health Ministry unbelievably are trying hard to reduce SNUS useage to gain WHO brownie points WHAT??? so it REALLY is about the money, then....how much more proof d'ya need ??
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Post by tomj777 on Jul 18, 2014 9:11:03 GMT
On the assumption that vaping won't kill us or won't as kill as many of us as Smoking or as quickly... A couple of other money angles relating to life expectancy to ponder upon:
Pensions: What happens when the average life expectancy of smokers increases.
Pension, Trust Funds, Bonds, Insurance, etc.... There's a lot of corporate and institutional capital invested in Pharmaceutical and Tobacco industries. Here we have a product that will damage subsections of the Pharmaceutical Industry and a considerable portion of the Tobacco Industry.
I believe this is a big part of what's going on.
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Post by markm on Jul 18, 2014 9:21:33 GMT
On the assumption that vaping won't kill us or won't as kill as many of us as Smoking or as quickly... A couple of other money angles relating to life expectancy to ponder upon: Pensions: What happens when the average life expectancy of smokers increases. Pension, Trust Funds, Bonds, Insurance, etc.... There's a lot of corporate and institutional capital invested in Pharmaceutical and Tobacco industries. Here we have a product that will damage subsections of the Pharmaceutical Industry and a considerable portion of the Tobacco Industry. I believe this is a big part of what's going on. A huge advantage we have here in the UK is that people in public health are opening up to really look at the evidence. As more of that is being gathered every day the changes in attitude here are an inevitability. Stan the spanner, is already trying to isolate the uk from the argument, calling us an anomaly. which is something to be very proud of in my book. We need to make sure our public health has a loud voice at cop6 or we may find the uk signed up to a huge backwards step, closing down the debate to a one sided monologue.
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Post by kibbster on Jul 18, 2014 12:47:10 GMT
On the assumption that vaping won't kill us or won't as kill as many of us as Smoking or as quickly... A couple of other money angles relating to life expectancy to ponder upon: Pensions: What happens when the average life expectancy of smokers increases. Pension, Trust Funds, Bonds, Insurance, etc.... There's a lot of corporate and institutional capital invested in Pharmaceutical and Tobacco industries. Here we have a product that will damage subsections of the Pharmaceutical Industry and a considerable portion of the Tobacco Industry. I believe this is a big part of what's going on. A huge advantage we have here in the UK is that people in public health are opening up to really look at the evidence. As more of that is being gathered every day the changes in attitude here are an inevitability. Stan the spanner, is already trying to isolate the uk from the argument, calling us an anomaly. which is something to be very proud of in my book. We need to make sure our public health has a loud voice at cop6 or we may find the uk signed up to a huge backwards step, closing down the debate to a one sided monologue. The fact that Stan Glans is ashamed of the UK makes me proud ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by kibbster on Jul 18, 2014 13:00:25 GMT
Oh and terrible news about Sweden ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Poor bastards having a shitty government like that ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by sammy13 on Jul 18, 2014 15:43:50 GMT
Does anyone know, these countries that have already banned them or classed them as medicines etc, what are they actually selling in their place?
For example someone has only just got into vaping before any bans / restrictions , and has a single ego battery and a ce4. It needs replacing, what can they buy in their country? Also could they buy online from a different country?
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Post by markm on Jul 18, 2014 15:53:59 GMT
Does anyone know, these countries that have already banned them or classed them as medicines etc, what are they actually selling in their place? For example someone has only just got into vaping before any bans / restrictions , and has a single ego battery and a ce4. It needs replacing, what can they buy in their country? Also could they buy online from a different country? No idea - the changes in law are still going through the process and yet to be enacted. Then you have implementation, which changes things again. No one has any simple answers yet.
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 21, 2014 11:57:02 GMT
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