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Post by chykensa on Jan 1, 2015 1:13:08 GMT
I really can't understand how a company such as Innokin, with such a large global base, can release the MVP2 20w, and then follow it so quickly with a 30w device. For my money, I'll hang on for the new 30w box mod rather than anything else!
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Post by xs2man on Jan 1, 2015 2:59:34 GMT
Got to agree. This will, for sure, get my money...
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 1, 2015 3:12:11 GMT
Likewise I've never seen an MVP clone, I've seen re-badged originals but NEVER a clone I remember seeing MVP clones for sale a while back but they looked rubbish. I've bought (and returned) too many cloned regulated devices this last year to ever bother again with one. Hoping this new MVP is under 50 quid. I think it looks pretty cool and 30W is great for me I don't have any clone regulated devices but it concerns me that people may think cloning the electronics and firmware is as easy a cloning a bit of machined metal.
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 1, 2015 3:13:38 GMT
I really can't understand how a company such as Innokin, with such a large global base, can release the MVP2 20w, and then follow it so quickly with a 30w device. For my money, I'll hang on for the new 30w box mod rather than anything else! Al la Kanger Protank last year, there were coming out like Windows updates for a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 3:50:42 GMT
Got to agree. This will, for sure, get my money... I'm in for one some as well, whatever the cost. Don't think or expect they will be overly expensive.
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Post by BrenD on Jan 1, 2015 4:01:17 GMT
No mention of the chip, are we to assume it isn't an Evolv?
Innokin have released or teased us with a few mods since they made a fuss of the Evolv hook-up, but only the SVD 2 has used their tech.
The 20w MVP puzzles me too, but I had hoped the true MVP3 would have an Evolv chip under the hood.
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Post by BrenD on Jan 1, 2015 4:09:25 GMT
That said, I expect I'll nab one when the usual suspects start to sell them. The 2.0 was my first upgrade from egos and fought off stiff competition from Vamo V5s, a Cool Fire 2 and a Hana clone to be my most used mod until I succumbed to iStick fever and the love of Meg, my God 180.
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Post by Jerri on Jan 1, 2015 4:11:23 GMT
No mention of the chip, are we to assume it isn't an Evolv? Innokin have released or teased us with a few mods since they made a fuss of the Evolv hook-up, but only the SVD 2 has used their tech. The 20w MVP puzzles me too, but I had hoped the true MVP3 would have an Evolv chip under the hood. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Yeah. This release coming so soon makes the MVP 20 make absolutely no sense to me. Unless you love the form factor/button placement of the original. Or unless this costs a lot more than we are assuming then I literally can't see a single reason to get the MVP20 over this. This has a bigger battery. More power. Fires lower. I honestly can not see the point to the release of the 20. Suppose time will tell when they release the prices. Then it may become obvious. Just because innokin say it will be competitive doesn't mean it will be cheap. But given that there will soon be an istick 50watt that if it follows previous pricing, will be very reasonable. They're going to have to be very careful will pricing or this will be overlooked by many in favour of a cheaper, more powerful mod.
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Post by BrenD on Jan 1, 2015 4:26:42 GMT
No mention of the chip, are we to assume it isn't an Evolv? Innokin have released or teased us with a few mods since they made a fuss of the Evolv hook-up, but only the SVD 2 has used their tech. The 20w MVP puzzles me too, but I had hoped the true MVP3 would have an Evolv chip under the hood. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Yeah. This release coming so soon makes the MVP 20 make absolutely no sense to me. Unless you love the form factor/button placement of the original. Or unless this costs a lot more than we are assuming then I literally can't see a single reason to get the MVP20 over this. This has a bigger battery. More power. Fires lower. I honestly can not see the point to the release of the 20. Suppose time will tell when they release the prices. Then it may become obvious. Just because innokin say it will be competitive doesn't mean it will be cheap. But given that there will soon be an istick 50watt that if it follows previous pricing, will be very reasonable. They're going to have to be very careful will pricing or this will be overlooked by many in favour of a cheaper, more powerful mod. Competitive against what? As you say they'll have to be very careful with the pricing as the whole world seems to have gone iStick mad and for good reason. I really hope Innokin aren't losing their way, their clearos suck (I'm an Aspire fanboy), but I'm fond of their mods. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 4:48:09 GMT
I remember seeing MVP clones for sale a while back but they looked rubbish. I've bought (and returned) too many cloned regulated devices this last year to ever bother again with one. Hoping this new MVP is under 50 quid. I think it looks pretty cool and 30W is great for me I don't have any clone regulated devices but it concerns me that people may think cloning the electronics and firmware is as easy a cloning a bit of machined metal. I've got two Hana clones and so far no issues with any in performance, one does not charge via usb so have to swap out battery but performance wise both spot on. The price difference between the authentic Hana and clone is massive which swayed me towards the clone. Price difference between an authentic MVP and a clone probably won't be that big so in that situation I would spend the exta to get the real deal. Plus having used an MVP1 or 2 every day for the last 18 months I have found them to be tough, reliable and have great battery life. With the V3, looks like Innokin have addressed the Achilles heel with the MVP by fitting a 510 spring loader. That was the only issue I had with mine, but I fitted fat Daddy 510's to them all to resolve the problem. As has already been said, the competion in the narket place is hotting up so innokin will have to think long and hard about pricing this. For me £50-60 would be reasonable, but I'm sure everyone will have their own opinion. Not a bad set up for £23.
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 1, 2015 5:10:04 GMT
It is a lottery though striker42, you are happy with yours which is good although one wont charge. There were some quite bad ones, especially early on and some of the things that separate the good the bad and the ugly are hard to see until something goes wrong. £60-70 is what a YiHi SX board costs over here the DNAs main competitor, I don't know but if they are still like the one pBusardo tested which didn't even do real time motoring of the coil (probably same with lots of mid priced stuff, I have seen it on the oscilloscope with an IPV2 myself) and I would not like to see what they do with a short or partial short that happened after the fire button was pressed (prob just internal damage and not battery going bang). DNAs and ProVaries would protect you in this situation, but when the cloners get temp sensing to work they will have to do real time resistance monitoring so that should be covered.
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Post by VE Jason on Jan 1, 2015 7:49:09 GMT
I'm sure we will igual but I don't think we are due the demo units until the 2nd week in January.
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Post by Montana on Jan 1, 2015 9:02:43 GMT
I hoping now this has been announced that a replacement/upgraded VTR will here with us VERY soon.It NEEDS to have a ring that can take a GT II as a minimum size , upgraded board ( for more options and control ) , keep the fire button in the same place but move it up 10-15mm , have a better battery door or a different way to put the battery in and be made lighter in weight.
Here's hoping it will be soon.
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P.S As tempted as I am with the MVP 3.0 , my MVP 2 is doing just fine.
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Post by geordie_vaper on Jan 1, 2015 9:03:52 GMT
there are so many yi hi chips out for so many diffrent devices am sure some of them will do all the bells and whistles the dna30 can,
in my limited time with a dna30 and a sx350 dna had a few niggles, sx350 was flawless
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Post by igual on Jan 1, 2015 10:43:19 GMT
Soon as my new batch of 510 connectors arrive I'm modifying my old mvp as the 510 on it has finally died. I'm guessing the mvp 3 will be about £60-65 mark which will leave it at a disadvantaged compared to the istick. And if the new 50w istick has a sprung 510 then it will knock socks off the mvp 20w and be serious competition for the 30w device.
Anyone point me towards a decent Hanna mod clone?
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