ohms confusion, washing frustration

[kittyvape]

Hiya

Seem to have got into a tizzy, lol. Was doing fine yesterday with the 1.2 coil for the Nano, nice rich flavour at 34w (own first mix, 22% flavour), but then ordered 5 0.5's (genuine) and the flavour seems to immediately have dropped or tastes a bit 'off' if raise/drop (same mix) from around 24w; still not nice rich flavour. Can't get my head around ohms/volts, difference between 0.5 and 1.2; tend to just experiment. Went for iStick 50w for battery (and very glad did), and Nano for price (another lucky choice, lol). 


Also finding washing doesn't remove previous flavour enough, and frustrating trying to get a clean taste especially when have just begun mixing and am having to wash tanks a lot (Kanger Nano for iStick 50w, Kanger Aerotank for iStick 10w, and an Aerotank EMOW I have been trying to use on a cheapish eGo battery and and eShisha Club Stellar Apollo battery ... had to try these 2 batteries, as Aerotank EMOW hasn't got a 510 thread and too deep for adaptor). Have just washed the two Aerotanks in warm soapy water, dried, left to dry overnight, but can still smell some flavouring on them, grrr! Only had Kanger Aerotank for 2 days, Aerotank EMOW for one day, and sometimes bad taste.

Also, have seen some 1.2 coils for the Nano at £3.99 at shopecigarette, and am amazed. Had just paid about £13 on Amazon for 0.5's! 0.5 or 1.2 SubTank Coils 

One other quick question, is part of dumping the stinkies and starting vaping (about 3 weeks now) to have a runny nose a lot? Is that a brief stage? Great to be here and able to ask these things. Really appreciate. 

[tim]

What flavours Kitty? Aniseed and menthol hang on.

[tim]

Also, with the coil ohms, generally, you need more watts for lower ohms. I'm not really understanding your problem though I think.

[igual]

Firstly whhhhhhhhy are you getting coils from Amazon and shop cigarette naughty lady.
myepack.co.uk/kanger-subtank-coil-head.html £2.20
www.vapeescape.co.uk/Vaping-Spares/Tanks-Accessories/SubTank-Mini-Nano-Spare-OCC-Coils-5.Html 12.95 for 5

OK now we have sorted that Tease-smiley
Due to the nature of the tanks they need orings and the liquids we vape are highly flavoured.
This will often mean that you have a smell of your last liquid in tank even after a thorough wash.
I tend to have 1 tank only for minty,menthol,anisseed vapes as its virtually impossible to mask those with other juices even after soaking in vodka,Milton etc.
Fruit flavours tend to blend and are not noticeable as long as you have a frsh wicked coil.
Also try and have a tank for dessert flavours like custards etc.

[kittyvape]

Apr 11, 2015 0:54:58 GMT tim said:

What flavours Kitty? Aniseed and menthol hang on.

Thanks tim   Various stronger fruits mainly eg blueberry, sasparella I can still smell after washing. My own first mix is boston mud pie and that seems okay [but is the one that's dropped in flavour as soon as I switched to 0.5 coil), but did a couple of new mixes today (double chocolate mint, and cinnamon coffee cake, all Capella) and keep getting 'off' tastes in the 2 Aerotanks. (Was trying not to have to empty out the Nano just yet.) 

Thanks for the clear explanation. So with the 0.5 I would be needing to switch the watts down anyway? But it should be the same strong flavour? Sorry, in some areas get a total brain-tizzy, lol. 

[VapingBad]

Apr 11, 2015 1:09:11 GMT kittyvape said:

So with the 0.5 I would be needing to switch the watts down anyway? But it should be the same strong flavour? Sorry, in some areas get a total brain-tizzy, lol. 

No, watts is the heating power and if you had an unregulated device like a mech mod then you would have to use the ohms to get the heating power you wanted. But with Variable Wattage devices they take care of all the that for you and ohms shouldn't make any difference as long as they are in the range your device can fire (many won't fire below 1 ohm or 0.5 ohm).

So between 2 coils if you put the same watts in they should heat the liquid the same, but they can be different physical size so that heat could be concentrated in a small contact area or more spread out and that is why they can vape differently.

It all sounds confusing, but roughly speaking you would stay at the same watts between different coils for a consistent vape, if you swapped tanks you may want to go up or down.

[kittyvape]

Apr 11, 2015 1:01:57 GMT igual said:

Firstly whhhhhhhhy are you getting coils from Amazon and shop cigarette naughty lady.
myepack.co.uk/kanger-subtank-coil-head.html £2.20
www.vapeescape.co.uk/Vaping-Spares/Tanks-Accessories/SubTank-Mini-Nano-Spare-OCC-Coils-5.Html 12.95 for 5

OK now we have sorted that Tease-smiley
Due to the nature of the tanks they need orings and the liquids we vape are highly flavoured.
This will often mean that you have a smell of your last liquid in tank even after a thorough wash.
I tend to have 1 tank only for minty,menthol,anisseed vapes as its virtually impossible to mask those with other juices even after soaking in vodka,Milton etc.
Fruit flavours tend to blend and are not noticeable as long as you have a frsh wicked coil.
Also try and have a tank for dessert flavours like custards etc.

Thanks igual, lol  Tease-smiley myepack it is then! Great tank allocation there; wish I'd thought of that, lol. Will do. Need to not use the eGo and eShisha batteries I think; got so spoilt by the iStick, it's maybe better to get a good extra tank for the 50w. Need to win the lottery soon, to cover costs, or would buy lots of Nanos and 50w's, lol. With being so new I'm not even out of the blister pack, I'd just thought a rinse would sort out any niffs.  Warm soapy water dip, dry, leave is what everyone mainly does? 

[tim]

Apr 11, 2015 1:09:11 GMT kittyvape said:

Apr 11, 2015 0:54:58 GMT tim said:

What flavours Kitty? Aniseed and menthol hang on.

Thanks tim   Various stronger fruits mainly eg blueberry, sasparella I can still smell after washing. My own first mix is boston mud pie and that seems okay [but is the one that's dropped in flavour as soon as I switched to 0.5 coil), but did a couple of new mixes today (double chocolate mint, and cinnamon coffee cake, all Capella) and keep getting 'off' tastes in the 2 Aerotanks. (Was trying not to have to empty out the Nano just yet.) 

Thanks for the clear explanation. So with the 0.5 I would be needing to switch the watts down anyway? But it should be the same strong flavour? Sorry, in some areas get a total brain-tizzy, lol. 

Don't worry about getting confused. You will learn as we did. As the ohms go down, you need more watts/volts. I don't know what your gear is (mod/atty) so need more info. The thing is, all tanks/atty's taste different at any given watts. It's hard to recommend a set watts/ohms for you. I really is a test of what you like.

If the flavour is coming from what you used in the tank before, you need to change your atomiser or re-wick it.Re-wickink is easy usually. just ask for a guide. Or someone here will do it for you for the cost of postage.

[thatguy]

If you look at the subtank (and mini/nano) docs, you'll see that the 0.5 ohm coils run best at a higher wattage than the 1.5 ohm. The 0.5 ohm run best at 25W-30W, the 1.2 ohm at about 15-20W.

As for the runny nose, don't worry, many people have had that when quitting the deathsticks. I guess it's one of the bodys ways of expelling all those toxins.

On a positive note, it only lasts a few weeks and you'll catch far less colds and flus.

[kittyvape]

Apr 11, 2015 1:17:48 GMT VapingBad said:

Apr 11, 2015 1:09:11 GMT kittyvape said:

So with the 0.5 I would be needing to switch the watts down anyway? But it should be the same strong flavour? Sorry, in some areas get a total brain-tizzy, lol. 

No, watts is the heating power and if you had an unregulated device like a mech mod then you would have to use the ohms to get the heating power you wanted. But with Variable Wattage devices they take care of all the that for you and ohms shouldn't make any difference as long as they are in the range your device can fire (many won't fire below 1 ohm or 0.5 ohm).

So between 2 coils if you put the same watts in they should heat the liquid the same, but they can be different physical size so that heat could be concentrated in a small contact area or more spread out and that is why they can vape differently.

It all sounds confusing, but roughly speaking you would stay at the same watts between different coils for a consistent vape, if you swapped tanks you may want to go up or down.

Thanks VapingBad   Same watts between different coils ... thanks for nice clear explanation. Might I have hit a bad coil? that would be odd for that to happen with Kanger? This one really does taste a bit 'off', and I can't imagine I got vaper's tongue the second I swapped coils, lol. Testing the 1.2 back in just now, although not sure if that one had burnt out (such a newb). 

[kittyvape]

Apr 11, 2015 1:29:39 GMT thatguy said:

If you look at the subtank (and mini/nano) docs, you'll see that the 0.5 ohm coils run best at a higher wattage than the 1.5 ohm. The 0.5 ohm run best at 25W-30W, the 1.2 ohm at about 15-20W.

As for the runny nose, don't worry, many people have had that when quitting the deathsticks. I guess it's one of the bodys ways of expelling all those toxins.

On a positive note, it only lasts a few weeks and you'll catch far less colds and flus.

Thanks thatguy   You know when you notice things but don't take them in or know what they really mean, lol ... looking at the docs was one of those times. Thanks for drawing my attention to that. Definitely 34w with the 1.2 was great, really strong flavour, and have had to drop down to 24w with the 0.5, yet not such a strong flavour, which is a shame. Can get some 1.2's. 

Thanks about the reassurance. Glad to get rid of the toxins, for sure!

[kittyvape]

Apr 11, 2015 1:24:14 GMT tim said:

Apr 11, 2015 1:09:11 GMT kittyvape said:

Thanks tim   Various stronger fruits mainly eg blueberry, sasparella I can still smell after washing. My own first mix is boston mud pie and that seems okay [but is the one that's dropped in flavour as soon as I switched to 0.5 coil), but did a couple of new mixes today (double chocolate mint, and cinnamon coffee cake, all Capella) and keep getting 'off' tastes in the 2 Aerotanks. (Was trying not to have to empty out the Nano just yet.) 

Thanks for the clear explanation. So with the 0.5 I would be needing to switch the watts down anyway? But it should be the same strong flavour? Sorry, in some areas get a total brain-tizzy, lol. 

Don't worry about getting confused. You will learn as we did. As the ohms go down, you need more watts/volts. I don't know what your gear is (mod/atty) so need more info. The thing is, all tanks/atty's taste different at any given watts. It's hard to recommend a set watts/ohms for you. I really is a test of what you like.

If the flavour is coming from what you used in the tank before, you need to change your atomiser or re-wick it.Re-wickink is easy usually. just ask for a guide. Or someone here will do it for you for the cost of postage.

Thanks tim   Appreciate being able to ask; great to learn. Using iStick 50w and Kanger Nano mainly. Can the Nano coils be re-wicked? Thanks that I could ask for guidance or someone would do it; that's really cool. 

[tim]

Apr 11, 2015 1:43:56 GMT kittyvape said:

Apr 11, 2015 1:24:14 GMT tim said:

Don't worry about getting confused. You will learn as we did. As the ohms go down, you need more watts/volts. I don't know what your gear is (mod/atty) so need more info. The thing is, all tanks/atty's taste different at any given watts. It's hard to recommend a set watts/ohms for you. I really is a test of what you like.

If the flavour is coming from what you used in the tank before, you need to change your atomiser or re-wick it.Re-wickink is easy usually. just ask for a guide. Or someone here will do it for you for the cost of postage.

Thanks tim   Appreciate being able to ask; great to learn. Using iStick 50w and Kanger Nano mainly. Can the Nano coils be re-wicked? Thanks that I could ask for guidance or someone would do it; that's really cool. 

They can be recoiled. Don't throw them away. There is a guide on this forum to help, but at the moment, we need to sort out what you like ohm-wise.

[VapingBad]

Apr 11, 2015 1:36:30 GMT kittyvape said:

Apr 11, 2015 1:17:48 GMT VapingBad said:

No, watts is the heating power and if you had an unregulated device like a mech mod then you would have to use the ohms to get the heating power you wanted. But with Variable Wattage devices they take care of all the that for you and ohms shouldn't make any difference as long as they are in the range your device can fire (many won't fire below 1 ohm or 0.5 ohm).

So between 2 coils if you put the same watts in they should heat the liquid the same, but they can be different physical size so that heat could be concentrated in a small contact area or more spread out and that is why they can vape differently.

It all sounds confusing, but roughly speaking you would stay at the same watts between different coils for a consistent vape, if you swapped tanks you may want to go up or down.

Thanks VapingBad   Same watts between different coils ... thanks for nice clear explanation. Might I have hit a bad coil? that would be odd for that to happen with Kanger? This one really does taste a bit 'off', and I can't imagine I got vaper's tongue the second I swapped coils, lol. Testing the 1.2 back in just now, although not sure if that one had burnt out (such a newb). 

I have just read thatguy's post and I am not a sub-tank owner he has pointed out the wattage the various coil options are optimised to.  This is want I was meaning by the physical size making a difference and while what I said is correct in the general sense.  The higher power/lower ohms ones suite a fuller/faster lung inhale style of vaping which needs more heating power, what I wrote applies if you inhaled at a reasonable consistent rate. 

Making this sound more complicated, but watts are just heating power, bigger coils (lower ohms) on the sub tank are optimised for faster lung inhales, smaller (higher ohms) for more normal mouth to lung inhales.  Don't worry too much the general rule is start with the watts lowish and increase to taste.

[tim]

kittyvape This is the guide allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/50953/kanger-subtank-occ-rebuild-guide?page=1&scrollTo=886449

It is probably well beyond your means/ability at the moment. But many people on here rebuild these. They will do so for you too, if you ask nicely.