was thinking of getting one if these but which 1

[tomj777]

Oh, putting it back together becomes absurdly easy after you've done it two or three times.

[Montana]

I have two Kayfun V4 clones , one good one bad.

The bad one is the Hcigar one , setting up and vaping it is great.Then comes the time when I want to take it apart , even just to re-wick it.The chimney won't come off the base without the use of two sets of grips , which is no good to man or beast.

The good one , Infinite one , same setup and vape as the Hcigar one , this one comes apart a lot easier though , I mean it actually comes apart with your hands.Having said that , I hate the fact that you still need very good grip and strong fingers to do it though AND you NEED to put it in the sonic bath a few times just to clean the threads off , so it doesn't get stuck.
The only thing that really bugs me is the width , with it being 23mm.I like vapes with a hint of cinnamon in ( tank crackers ) , which means I can't use the bell cap that also comes with the Infinite version.I have only just got enough room ( after cutting and grinding the support ring off a second hand Innokin VTR ) to fit 22mm atty's and the only way to have glass is to have the fatter 23mm version.

I do prefer the vape with the V4 , but it IS faffy.Also the looks of the V4 is also nicer than a Subtank Mini.For ease of build and use though , the Mini wins hands down , from being totally broken down to vaping it takes under 5 mins , and that includes coiling and wicking , so I can see why people prefer the Mini.


Andy