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Post by letsavit on Jul 12, 2015 23:56:35 GMT
by VapingBad but kinda said the same thing...... Ha ha does read like that but for us mortals the chip does the maths for us....even with the DN200 and the very quick look of the software screen shots I have had of you only set the parameters, the chip still does the mathematics. I'm sure they will be shared for different wire types across the forums etc. ATM personally I have no intention of moving away from NI200 and a chip that's pre set to that, kinda it works don't touch attitude. Dna40 does it all for me at present. to be honest I've been settled for a while, using kanthal mostly but always have a dripper with a nickel build. I went a bit mad professor a few weeks back and rebuilt everything I have in rotation with a nickel build. I'm blown away by the performance all over again and really back into it. I know 40 watts is plenty as i don't have many builds that require over 20w before temp kicks in, the instant quality vape of having it set to 40w is fab, il prob end up getting the 200 at some point but for now, the dna40 does everything i need and want Yea same mate, 40 watts is plenty, 50% more than I need already, my little single coils heat up instantly, all set up for me and problem free nowadays ..... Like you I will prob get a DNA200 to play with as part of this hobby and may be proved wrong but for now I haven't read that much it offers me. Maybe some frustration...!
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 13, 2015 0:01:00 GMT
For me the ability to use fatter wire is a big plus (dual coil genny fan boy), the other wires, fw updating (they have done a lot of work on the refinement mode from what I hear), PC intergeneration are all good to.
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Post by letsavit on Jul 13, 2015 0:10:38 GMT
For me the ability to use fatter wire is a big plus (dual coil genny fan boy), the other wires, fw updating (they have done a lot of work on the refinement mode from what I hear), PC intergeneration are all good to. Yes the lower ohms does offer more for duel builds, your genny build I see looks like it has a lot to heat as well, so the extra power will help. For now, for me my bread and butter atty is still the kayfun, I seem to get a worse vape from a too large coil compared to smaller. Still mostly mech kanthel on drippers, I'm an old skool vaper of 10 months....!
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 13, 2015 0:26:15 GMT
For me the ability to use fatter wire is a big plus (dual coil genny fan boy), the other wires, fw updating (they have done a lot of work on the refinement mode from what I hear), PC intergeneration are all good to. Yes the lower ohms does offer more for duel builds, your genny build I see looks like it has a lot to heat as well, so the extra power will help. For now, for me my bread and butter atty is still the kayfun, I seem to get a worse vape from a too large coil compared to smaller. Still mostly mech kanthel on drippers, I'm an old skool vaper of 10 months....! But I get all that real time graphing and numbers for most everything to debug my vape, geek heaven Putting a TL device on an oscilloscope is very very limited as you need top top notch gear to get both current and voltage (so you could get watts and temp) without affecting it, voltage on it own tells you very little just a sort of broad brush view of the method used. R changes so fast it has little relation to watts until it gets stable unless you have the current or temp to with it.
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Post by letsavit on Jul 13, 2015 0:38:59 GMT
Yes the lower ohms does offer more for duel builds, your genny build I see looks like it has a lot to heat as well, so the extra power will help. For now, for me my bread and butter atty is still the kayfun, I seem to get a worse vape from a too large coil compared to smaller. Still mostly mech kanthel on drippers, I'm an old skool vaper of 10 months....! But I get all that real time graphing and numbers for most everything to debug my vape, geek heaven Putting a TL device on an oscilloscope is very very limited as you need top top notch gear to get both current and voltage (so you could get watts and temp) without affecting it, voltage on it own tells you very little just a sort of broad brush view of the method used. R changes so fast it has little relation to watts until it gets stable unless you have the current or temp to with it. I think it great that evolv have designed a board to get free feedback from "geeks" of how to improve temp control for us just wanna press a fire button vapors...
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 13, 2015 0:42:54 GMT
But I get all that real time graphing and numbers for most everything to debug my vape, geek heaven Putting a TL device on an oscilloscope is very very limited as you need top top notch gear to get both current and voltage (so you could get watts and temp) without affecting it, voltage on it own tells you very little just a sort of broad brush view of the method used. R changes so fast it has little relation to watts until it gets stable unless you have the current or temp to with it. I think it great that evolv have designed a board to get free feedback from "geeks" of how to improve temp control for us just wanna press a fire button vapors... Everyone's happy
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Post by letsavit on Jul 13, 2015 0:53:42 GMT
I think it great that evolv have designed a board to get free feedback from "geeks" of how to improve temp control for us just wanna press a fire button vapors... Everyone's happy Yep...and although said somewhat tongue and cheek it could well go that way, what you and others find could well be added to a simpler lower wattage board in the future.
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 13, 2015 1:03:31 GMT
Everyone's happy Yep...and although said somewhat tongue and cheek it could well go that way, what you and others find could well be added to a simpler lower wattage board in the future. I though it was a good point
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Post by letsavit on Jul 13, 2015 1:11:44 GMT
Yep...and although said somewhat tongue and cheek it could well go that way, what you and others find could well be added to a simpler lower wattage board in the future. I though it was a good point What I said a good point, when and where.....?
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 13, 2015 1:14:09 GMT
I though it was a good point What I said a good point, when and where.....? Well I have has the odd beer
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Post by Q on Jul 13, 2015 1:29:13 GMT
What I said a good point, when and where.....? Well I have has the odd beer What flavour? and how long did you steep it for
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 13, 2015 1:34:09 GMT
Well I have has the odd beer What flavour? and how long did you steep it for Not as long as you did with that joke Tease-smiley
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Post by letsavit on Jul 13, 2015 1:42:38 GMT
What I said a good point, when and where.....? Well I have has the odd beer On a school night....! Derailing but not many awake...! just looked at the BBC news, I'm sitting two roads away from ThisGangsters shooting gangsters thats the life they choose. The old time "gold finger" gangster (Heathrow robbery) got done in my sister home town last week...out in Essex at his home, not on a high street but a women in some sort of drive by shooting, this could of been me and my girlfriend.
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 13, 2015 1:50:18 GMT
Well I have has the odd beer On a school night....! Derailing but not many awake...! just looked at the BBC news, I'm sitting two roads away from ThisGangsters shooting gangsters thats the life they choose. The old time "gold finger" gangster (Heathrow robbery) got done in my sister home town last week...out in Essex at his home, not on a high street but a women in some sort of drive by shooting, this could of been me and my girlfriend. I have been round there hundreds of times when I was a kid and young adult, even in to my 30s, still had an armed siege in the village I live in a few years back (knife not firearm).
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Post by letsavit on Jul 13, 2015 2:25:10 GMT
On a school night....! Derailing but not many awake...! just looked at the BBC news, I'm sitting two roads away from ThisGangsters shooting gangsters thats the life they choose. The old time "gold finger" gangster (Heathrow robbery) got done in my sister home town last week...out in Essex at his home, not on a high street but a women in some sort of drive by shooting, this could of been me and my girlfriend. I have been round there hundreds of times when I was a kid and young adult, even in to my 30s, still had an armed siege in the village I live in a few years back (knife not firearm). gangsters unloading machine guns down a high street in broad daylight...
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