Is my tc working?

[Get Off My Cloud]

To be honest i don't get too fussy with the cotton burn test stuff, you'll notice the flavour drop off before the cotton gets bone dry and a slightly moist wick isn't going to scorch as easily as fresh dry cotton, even slight moisture, so unless it's one of those mods where the temp limiting is a total fail and heavily scorches dry cotton or sends it up in flames like the M80 does you're unlikely to get a burnt hit.
I'm also unsure why people do 10 second fire tests, i dunno maybe i just vape differently to other people but i don't take anywhere close to a 10 second pull when vaping, more like 5 or 6.

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Your right Get Off My Cloud it means very little on a well performing and accurate device, but when you're new to TP as flavourtank mentioned, doing a scorch test is all part of learning about it.

Setting a temp that gives the best flavour ensures the scorch point of the wick won't be reached.

A 10 sec fire is just to be certain i suppose.

[reefcat]

Watching this with interest as my first TC mod should be getting off the slow boat any day now.

Like @scooby I'm also a smoker, the BBQ kind is the only kind of smoking I do now. All my BBQ stuff is in Fahrenheit so you get used to it after a while.

Jul 15, 2015 13:00:49 GMT @scooby said:

Jul 15, 2015 12:46:40 GMT VapingBad said:

Got used to it and all the early info was in F and most of the info now is so it saves on conversion errors with mental arithmetic. I got my 1st DNA40 in Oct, 2nd in Dec & Kinxin in June none of these do Celsius.  I have a DNA40 gold and a DNA200 arrive today and will use them in Fahrenheit, but for most things I am metric.

Your right it's what you get used to and after all it's only a number as the tests of all the various device scorch tests show

I hot smoke and when looking for recipe inspiration all the Brisket, pork, rib etc info on the web is in F, that's the only time I'm none metric, I just got used to it.

[VapingBad]

@scooby & reefcat you can digital meat thermometers that do both scales and its just a flick of the switch to convert.



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[VapingBad]

Jul 15, 2015 13:56:31 GMT @scooby said:

Your right Get Off My Cloud it means very little on a well performing and accurate device, but when you're new to TP as flavourtank mentioned, doing a scorch test is all part of learning about it.

Setting a temp that gives the best flavour ensures the scorch point of the wick won't be reached.

A 10 sec fire is just to be certain i suppose.

I found with the YiHi it made a lot of difference espically at low temps vs 5 sec as IMO it has poor/inconstant regulation, letsavit was telling me how he had to change the temp and the watts together on his to get a consistent vape - meaning how it reads temp changes with the watts.  Hardly any difference on DNA40 between 5 & 10 secs, but if you are comparing results you need to make the plying field as level as possible even just comparing different temps from the same setup.

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Jul 15, 2015 14:24:11 GMT VapingBad said:

@scooby & reefcat you can digital meat thermometers that do both scales and its just a flick of the switch to convert.



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I never realised that VapingBad


You really need to go to the next stage of temp monitoring:



I like the round 2nd tier grill on the Cobb, is it a Cobb part or something you had that fit's?

[reefcat]

I use a home built Heatermeter with a pit controller, it's all wi-fi enabled & I can control the temp from the PC. Will take some pics next time I use it.

[reefcat]

Maybe we should start a BBQ thread in the Lounge?

[VapingBad]

Jul 15, 2015 14:56:40 GMT @scooby said:

Jul 15, 2015 14:24:11 GMT VapingBad said:

@scooby & reefcat you can digital meat thermometers that do both scales and its just a flick of the switch to convert.



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I never realised that VapingBad


You really need to go to the next stage of temp monitoring:

I like the round 2nd tier grill on the Cobb, is it a Cobb part or something you had that fit's?

It was a "steamer" accessory that came with a wok years age, the gas ring adapter that also came with is is great for standing the cooking surface on when you want to turn the roast veg in the well.  I recently got a Aldi rib rack, had to cut the ends off, but only good for really thick meat.

[phatfil]

if anyones interested in stc1000 hacks pm me , im currently developing a RF remote temp logger/monitor and am planning on adding cloud/internet of things conectivity with an esp8266







almost ready to find the soldering iron

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Sounds like we could merge this into brewing/BBQ temp monitoring/control by the looks of the expertise phatfil and reefcat possess.

Add to that VapingBad 's skill and imagination with materials, plus taking obscure items and fashioning them to be suitable for a completely different use I think we'll be onto a winner

Oh and after much experimentation and testing I firmly believe that meat tastes best in F and juice in C

[flavourtank]

@scooby VapingBad

When applying scorch test what colour burn is best?

I.e you see nothing or a slight marking

[VapingBad]

Jul 15, 2015 20:09:11 GMT flavourtank said:

@scooby VapingBad

When applying scorch test what colour burn is best?

I.e you see nothing or a slight marking

Nothing, but it depends on the temp, upto 400 F nothing, over 420 F starting to discolour, but don't worry if it's 30 F out just adjust to taste.  It is likely that different cottons have slightly different scorch temp, I used Wilko Organic cotton balls.

[letsavit]

flavourtank just a slight mark on the cotton at any temp with some range above and below. The "slight mark" is just an Indication of where you will be vaping around. As Get Off My Cloud said in use the cotton will not burn and will never be that dry but it's a good and easy way of testing if a mod can do temp control and where you'll be vaping around.

Notice from reading robby posts today that Smok looks like it can do temp control but only marks at the highest setting, hence might not be enough range above for some. Just watched 2mins of the vid and the new istick, it marks at 550f but at 600f scorches the cotton, indicating to me though the range is there, although on the high side.

VapingBad yes the SXmini is dependant on other settings, it will not mark the cotton the same at a set temp at 10j standard as 50j powerful, about 40f difference but if you tell the chip to overpower and you want some kind of boost (more vapor) there's no other way without more heat? you can see the screen overrun the temp more at the higher settings and when in real use it still won't burn the cotton. Still around an average of 100f down compared to the DNA40.

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You've got me going now flavourtank I just did a test with KGD, even changed to F so it's more understandable

Nothing up to 410f, 420f very slight barely perceptible scorching and 430f slight scorching. That's with a DNA40 and a 10sec fire.

I agree with VapingBad comments and would add that the two mods I'm vaping at the moment are set for good flavour at 190c (374F) and 195c (383F) so a well below the temp I'd experience a dry, burnt hit.

Imo I think you're best to start at the 'nothing' temp, then gradually reduce it to find the most flavourful temp.