What makes liquid harsh?

[Jerri]

As in the title really.

I mostly vape custard. 50/50 3mg.

I'm always looking for a fruity vape but they are without fail too harsh on my throat.

So last week I tried some in a shop. Loved them. Got home and ordered some.

They're pre steeped. One is 50/50 3mg one is 80/20 3mg. Low and behold they're far too harsh on my throat.

Now it's not like I tried them in a little tank and my tanks are much better. They were in an isub g at 0.5 ohms.

I build my own coils at 1.4ohms in a subtank mini.

I'm really annoyed because I've just wasted almost £40 on juice I can't vape.

So why is it everything besides custard feels like it's ripping my throat out? Even if I use the same nic content and ratios etc.

[Perpetua]

I would say perhaps it's something in the flavourings that just doesn't agree with your throat Jerri . . . . although if you've bought exactly the ones you tried in the shop without problems, then what equipment did you use there for testing?

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 17:47:23 GMT Perpetua said:

I would say perhaps it's something in the flavourings that just doesn't agree with your throat Jerri . . . . although if you've bought exactly the ones you tried in the shop without problems, then what equipment did you use there for testing?

They were in an isub g tank. 0.5ohms. On an is tick 50w at 25 watts.

I put them in a subtank mini with a 1.4ohms home made coil at 16watts.

[MrDJ]

then its something to do with the tank then.
normally people say 3-6mg is fine and bearable for sub ohming but anything higher would be a throat killer.

ive never used a isub g tank before so cant compare but for the last 4 months im having custard at 3mg in subtank mini and tried both 0.5 and 1.2 coils and its smooth as custard.

have you got any OCC pre made coils that you could try to see if its any better. i vary wattage between 15-22watts.

[drunkenbum]

I do find my isub is a smoother vape than my subtank. But I also use 70vg juice so that may contribute to the smoothness too

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 18:15:45 GMT MrDJ said:

then its something to do with the tank then.
normally people say 3-6mg is fine and bearable for sub ohming but anything higher would be a throat killer.

ive never used a isub g tank before so cant compare but for the last 4 months im having custard at 3mg in subtank mini and tried both 0.5 and 1.2 coils and its smooth as custard.

have you got any OCC pre made coils that you could try to see if its any better. i vary wattage between 15-22watts.

I do have the oc coils that came with the tank. I've not used them yet.

To be honest though I don't see how an OC coil at 1.2 would be vastly different to my own coils at 1.4ohms. And surely the 0.5 head would make it even harsher?

I'm annoyed to be honest. I've left myself short on juice because I just assumed because I'd loved them in the shop that I'd enjoy them at home.

I think I'm just going to throw them in the classies. I'm not the most patient of vapers and don't fancy wasting yet more time and eliquid trying to find a way to vape them without felling like my throat is being ripped out.

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 18:18:55 GMT drunkenbum said:

I do find my isub is a smoother vape than my subtank. But I also use 70vg juice so that may contribute to the smoothness too

Really?

It is strange how juice always taste different in different tanks.

One of the liquids is 80/20 VG so it can't be the pg.

I thought I'd be okay because it was a sub ohm type tank.

I'm disappointed because the flavours are really lovely.

[baron]

I generally like custard flavours, and can sometimes find that a vape when just about awake with my morning cuppa, can feel like sand paper, but a bit later on when getting used to it, is nice and smooth and tastes as it should.

I also found (to my dismay) that I loaded up my iSub pc tank with the same juice in my Atlantis2, both with .5 ohm coils, and it tasted harsh, but the Atlantis2 was fine.
I haven't tried it again, because I have just about run out of my Custard Donut juice (80/20PG/VG), and just keep to the Atlantis2 until I run out.

Perhaps I am just a bit weird...

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 18:47:28 GMT baron said:

I generally like custard flavours, and can sometimes find that a vape when just about awake with my morning cuppa, can feel like sand paper, but a bit later on when getting used to it, is nice and smooth and tastes as it should.

I also found (to my dismay) that I loaded up my iSub pc tank with the same juice in my Atlantis2, both with .5 ohm coils, and it tasted harsh, but the Atlantis2 was fine.
I haven't tried it again, because I have just about run out of my Custard Donut juice (80/20PG/VG), and just keep to the Atlantis2 until I run out.

Perhaps I am just a bit weird...

I am too o reckon.

I've been vaping almost three years and have never found a fruit vape that wasn't too harsh.

I gave up buying them to try but was in a shop with my friend and these liquids were just gorgeous. Was made up thinking I'd finally found a fruity vape!

Mind if I ask which custard doughnut you're vaping? After one of those myself.

[MrDJ]

i had tried a custard doughnut also from isle of custard isleofcustard.com/epages/950018379.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950018379/Categories/%22Custard%20E-liquids%22

i actually bought 7 different ones from them and the doughnut did stand out from the rest but its still in the dark cupboard with about 20 other bottles as im just hooked on 3 ADV of devilicious custard then grants vanilla custard then strawberry fields which i rotate. must try not to buy 100ml at a time as never have time for all the other juice i have.

forgot to mention. i always get 50/50 mix as its what i started with and couldnt be botered to try other variations of pg/vg

[tim]

Maybe you just need to buy an isub g tank and an iStick 50w Jerri

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 19:42:04 GMT MrDJ said:

i had tried a custard doughnut also from isle of custard isleofcustard.com/epages/950018379.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950018379/Categories/%22Custard%20E-liquids%22

i actually bought 7 different ones from them and the doughnut did stand out from the rest but its still in the dark cupboard with about 20 other bottles as im just hooked on 3 ADV of devilicious custard then grants vanilla custard then strawberry fields which i rotate. must try not to buy 100ml at a time as never have time for all the other juice i have.

forgot to mention. i always get 50/50 mix as its what i started with and couldnt be botered to try other variations of pg/vg

Thanks! That's the one I've got my eye on. I've just got to the last few ml of a 100ml bottle of their cutlass custard. I got it to try a different custard to my usual daredevils and whilst irbid nice it's not 'better' and not worth the extra £10 the 100ml costs.

I have daredevils and spectrums custard cream in rotation. Will be ordering a bottle of the custard doughnut to put in the steep draw for when this 100ml of daredevils custard runs out.

Really want a fruity liquid to put in the mix but after almost three years I doubt it'll ever happen!

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 19:57:52 GMT tim said:

Maybe you just need to buy an isub g tank and an iStick 50w Jerri

I actually contemplated buying the iSub but I've just moved over to rebuilding so don't fancy going back to buying coils.

I've got the 40w istick haha. That's close enough.

[tim]

Jul 28, 2015 20:27:46 GMT Jerri said:

Jul 28, 2015 19:57:52 GMT tim said:

Maybe you just need to buy an isub g tank and an iStick 50w Jerri

I actually contemplated buying the iSub but I've just moved over to rebuilding so don't fancy going back to buying coils.

I've got the 40w istick haha. That's close enough.

I was jesting, as you know, but.....different mods give different ohms readings, so they will supply different tastes. This is caused by them reading x ohms and supplying power for that, rather than what you are used to. Even two identical mods may read differently, it's an issue that you need to adapt to. 20w on one mod will be different to 20w on another if it reads the ohms different (sometimes, even if ohms are the same). It will give you different power. The same happens with tanks, but to a lesser degree, as there is resistance in the tank/dripper itself. You may just need to turn down the watts a bit to get a smoother vape.

[phatfil]

i dont know anything, but suspect if you have a sensitivity to PG even 95% VG juice may have enough PG to aggravate you??

and if you can develop a sensitivity to PG after using it happily before?? i dunno that either??

perhaps try some 100%vg juice if you can, you can get 100% VG based concentrate, chefs vapour perhaps?? if no one chips in with it i have a bottle of VG concentrate in the cupboard i bought in a bundle off the classifieds in here,, and I will dig it out for the makers..
  OK SCRUB ALL THAT IF YOUR VAPING 50/50 CUSTARD HAPPILY.... I will get me coat..