Nickel or Titanium?

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Apologies if this has been covered before, but can any of you experienced TC vapers give your valued views on the pros and cons of nickel versus Titanium coils eg: ease of use, life time of coil, possible health risks etc.
All views welcome and appreciated in advance.

[Perpetua]

Haven't a clue @yinyang . . . . thought I'd just pop in to give you a wave though.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Tried both don't really see much difference, i'm fully in the camp of TC vaping is crap.
I've given it a good go and it just doesn't suit my style of vape, i've tried twisted coils, claptons the lot it just doesn't deliver the goods for me.

Doesn't matter what i try if i set the temp limit so it isn't going to scorch the wick the performance is just pants, the vapour production is weak and the flavour is anaemic, it's like vaping fresh air.
The only way i've found to get round this is to raise the temp limit which defeats the point as far as i'm concerned.
Not only are you not preventing the wick getting scorched you're also just wasting battery life, it takes a lot more power to heat up a 0.1ohm TC coil than it does a 1.0ohm Kanthal one and there's no real benefit or better performance that i can notice.

I dunno maybe it works better on mouth to lung style tanks but that's not my style of vape i like a good full lung hit and TC just doesn't deliver it not without bumping the temp limit up way beyond where it's actually useful.

[VapingBad]

Aug 29, 2015 22:08:37 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

it takes a lot more power to heat up a 0.1ohm TC coil than it does a 1.0ohm Kanthal one and there's no real benefit or better performance that i can notice.

Watts are Watts, it would take more or less the same power for both, but smaller (lower mass) coils need less energy to get up to temp.

Next time, if there is one, try more wraps (surface area) it is a better strategy than upping the temp IMO.

[tim]

What John said ^^^^^^^^

Get more wire in there.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Aug 29, 2015 22:47:29 GMT VapingBad said:

Aug 29, 2015 22:08:37 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

it takes a lot more power to heat up a 0.1ohm TC coil than it does a 1.0ohm Kanthal one and there's no real benefit or better performance that i can notice.

Watts are Watts, it would take more or less the same power for both, but smaller (lower mass) coils need less energy to get up to temp.

Next time, if there is one, try more wraps (surface area) it is a better strategy than upping the temp IMO.

Yeah but it takes more power to heat a lower resistance wire, the higher the resistance the more power gets converted to heat.
I've tried all sorts of setups i really have and my experience is it just doesn't perform like kanthal does with the way i like to vape, not without raising the temp limit.

[tim]

You must need a new set of tastebuds Get Off My Cloud, I have never tasted so much flavour than from a TC mod.

But each to their own. Respect

[VapingBad]

Aug 29, 2015 23:04:23 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Aug 29, 2015 22:47:29 GMT VapingBad said:

Watts are Watts, it would take more or less the same power for both, but smaller (lower mass) coils need less energy to get up to temp.

Next time, if there is one, try more wraps (surface area) it is a better strategy than upping the temp IMO.

Yeah but it takes more power to heat a lower resistance wire, the higher the resistance the more power gets converted to heat.
I've tried all sorts of setups i really have and my experience is it just doesn't perform like kanthal does with the way i like to vape, not without raising the temp limit.

Sorry you are wrong.  It is Ohm's law (well not actually part of Ohm's law it is Joule heating to be correct) watts measure heating power P, P = IV = I²R = V²/R.

2 examples

0.1 ohm at 10 W needs 1 V at 10 A
1.0 ohm at 10 W needs 10 V at 1 A

both examples are 10 W of heat (P = IV)

[Get Off My Cloud]

Aug 29, 2015 23:14:31 GMT tim said:

You must need a new set of tastebuds Get Off My Cloud, I have never tasted so much flavour than from a TC mod.

But each to their own. Respect

Where do you have your temp limit set, same to you VapingBad on a lung hitting setup?
I will bet it's above the scorching point of cotton or you're taking really long pulls.

Maybe it is just me although i have my doubts because every time i watch a reviewer reviewing a TC device on a TC setup they've either got the limit up way above the scorching point or they're sat their pulling on the thing for like 10-15 seconds.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Aug 29, 2015 23:26:58 GMT VapingBad said:

Aug 29, 2015 23:04:23 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Yeah but it takes more power to heat a lower resistance wire, the higher the resistance the more power gets converted to heat.
I've tried all sorts of setups i really have and my experience is it just doesn't perform like kanthal does with the way i like to vape, not without raising the temp limit.

Sorry you are wrong.  It is Ohm's law (well not actually part of Ohm's law it is Joule heating to be correct) watts measure heating power P, P = IV = I²R = V²/R.

2 examples

0.1 ohm at 10 W needs 1 V at 10 A
1.0 ohm at 10 W needs 10 V at 1 A

both examples are 10 W of heat (P = IV)

So you're saying a battery doesn't drain faster with a lower resistance coil?

[VapingBad]

I got a velocity running at 400 F 100 W without the temp limit cutting in all the time Get Off My Cloud, had to suck real real hard and flood the coils link.

[VapingBad]

Aug 29, 2015 23:39:20 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Aug 29, 2015 23:26:58 GMT VapingBad said:

Sorry you are wrong.  It is Ohm's law (well not actually part of Ohm's law it is Joule heating to be correct) watts measure heating power P, P = IV = I²R = V²/R.

2 examples

0.1 ohm at 10 W needs 1 V at 10 A
1.0 ohm at 10 W needs 10 V at 1 A

both examples are 10 W of heat (P = IV)

So you're saying a battery doesn't drain faster with a lower resistance coil?

Yes it is the wattage that counts on regulated mods.

[Greg]

Aug 29, 2015 23:26:58 GMT VapingBad said:

Aug 29, 2015 23:04:23 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Yeah but it takes more power to heat a lower resistance wire, the higher the resistance the more power gets converted to heat.
I've tried all sorts of setups i really have and my experience is it just doesn't perform like kanthal does with the way i like to vape, not without raising the temp limit.

Sorry you are wrong.  It is Ohm's law (well not actually part of Ohm's law it is Joule heating to be correct) watts measure heating power P, P = IV = I²R = V²/R.

2 examples

0.1 ohm at 10 W needs 1 V at 10 A
1.0 ohm at 10 W needs 10 V at 1 A

both examples are 10 W of heat (P = IV)

Actually you may wish to review your numbers in example 2 

[VapingBad]

Aug 29, 2015 23:44:49 GMT Greg said:

Aug 29, 2015 23:26:58 GMT VapingBad said:

Sorry you are wrong.  It is Ohm's law (well not actually part of Ohm's law it is Joule heating to be correct) watts measure heating power P, P = IV = I²R = V²/R.

2 examples

0.1 ohm at 10 W needs 1 V at 10 A
1.0 ohm at 10 W needs 10 V at 1 A

both examples are 10 W of heat (P = IV)

Actually you may wish to review your numbers in example 2 

Well spotted Greg 1.0 ohm at 10 W needs 3.162 V at 3.162 A, still 10 W

10 V at 1 A would be for 10 ohm.

[Deleted]

when nickel is heated it may leach and produce nickel carbonyl which is toxic. nickel is classed as a hazardous substance and a group A human carcinogen. It's also water soluble... Just sayin.