I have come to the conclusion

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That all atties are shite compared to drippers. There is not
an atty on the market that compares to my Sapor for flavour.
So do your best and prove me wrong.

[sydsut]

Can't over the internet, but my Wismec Theorem with notch coils will leave it lying in the gutter crying for it's Mom.

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May 3, 2016 22:30:41 GMT sydsut said:

Can't over the internet, but my Wismec Theorem with notch coils will leave it lying in the gutter crying for it's Mom.

How long do you get out of those coils ?

[Get Off My Cloud]

Moonshot is the closest RTA i've found to a dripper so far.
Vector is still my favourite flavour dripper.

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Found this review on the wismec

I've seen really mixed reviews of the Theorem, but I bought one anyway to see what it was like as I'm a sucker for something a bit different.

First the cons:
The notch coil is ******* useless unless you're using it on a single 18640 regulated mod as it heats up a lot faster than claptons, and doesn't drain the battery as fast for that reason, however I only start to get flavour at 55w.
The juice capacity is a joke if you're comparing it to tanks and it will only last me 20-30 mins before refilling it.
The stainless steel covered glass looks nice, but it's utterly useless unless you want to constantly overfill it as you can't see through the gaps enough to just squirt it in.
After a couple of days the cotton will look a little shitty through the glass, so a frosted option would have been nice.

And now the pros:
I like to think of it as a hybrid RDA with a very deep well, and it's pretty long lasting between fills.
Flavour is a balancing act, but I'm finding it works amazingly well with 3.5mm fused claptons (ni80 5 wraps 24g/35g at 0.22 ohms) at 65-70w with a 125w preheat on a DNA200.

It gets a little hot with the single airflow adapter, but with the dual it's a lovely warm and tasty vape.
while it can fit a 5mm coil with plenty of room, I find that it's simply too much cotton and that's stopping it wick as fast so the flavour is choked a bit, but with a 3.5mm coil it's just the right amount so that it's wicking well without too much juice making it spit.

All in all, while it's not everyone's cup of tea, I get better flavour than with a standard tank (even the Griffin 25) but not as good as an RDA. It's a compromise but it's great for my trip to work which is about half an hour and not having to worry about dripping and getting better flavour than a tank. But as usual, anything can be shit if you don't find the ideal coil and wicking style to suit how you vape, and some devices aren't going to work for you because of that.

[monty]

All but given up on tanks. Gennys mostly and drippers for cotton loving juices.

[striker42]

I'll remain a member of the tank squadron.

[sydsut]

All in all, while it's not everyone's cup of tea, I get better flavour than with a standard tank (even the Griffin 25) but not as good as an RDA. It's a compromise but it's great for my trip to work which is about half an hour and not having to worry about dripping and getting better flavour than a tank. But as usual, anything can be shit if you don't find the ideal coil and wicking style to suit how you vape, and some devices aren't going to work for you because of that. 

Ahha, using the Glantz scientific proof method   , no data or references and just handpicked quotes. As I said it can't be proven/disproven on hearsay over the internet. And I don't know how long the coils last as I've only just got the mod. But it's had about 10 refills, 2 rewicks and 2 dryburns and still looks good and performing well. I reckon on it lasting a chain vaper like me for weeks. Can't wait till I get the packs of coils from fasttech and put them in other tanks and RDAs. Should be very interesting.

[Greeny1210]

I am not one of those who has been chasing some impossible dream perfect vape like a smack head chasing that first high, so have not tried the amount of tanks/rba as most of you guys
I have got the zenith dripper and a velocity, both good, but topping up every 5 tokes? nah PITA
Crown and cleito rip them apart for me, not much in it flavor wise but the convenience nails it for me

Yet to try any other drippers, any tanks on par with the cleito which are out there so I am told or any RTA etc so as i say I am limited, i just do not get the fuss with drippers ...YET

[enjay]

May 3, 2016 22:11:12 GMT @tmfkatubthumper said:

That all atties are shite compared to drippers. There is not
an atty on the market that compares to my Sapor for flavour.
So do your best and prove me wrong.

My vcmt laughs at your sapor! Talk about a flavour hit! Ooft!

Tbh though it's mostly in the build although some tanks definitely seem to lack the ability to really impress

[jtc]

Well I disagree
I'd say my griffin beats my velocity for flavour with the same build.
Dripping imo is a pain in the ass to use all day.I only use my velocity for testing new mixes as it is easier to clean up and rewick

[pacman]

Each to their own prefer rtas myself too messy with drippers on the go all the time. Mainly use them for trying new juices out then back on the shelf they go

[chykensa]

I think that enjay hit the nail on the head when he said "Tbh though it's mostly in the build" - I have had some awful results from my Griffins when I build lazily, or wick it badly, but then I build carefully and wick the tank with care and get fantastic results.
There are only so many variables in tank design and construction, and if you use stock coils and don't rebuild, you are beholden to the design and manufacture of the stock coil. At least with something that is rebuildable, you have some control over the resistance, wire diameter, internal diameter and wicking, none of which you can control with the shop-bought coil head.

Just my twopennyworth! . . .

[jtc]

Yeah I agree as well
The build is a very important factor.
I'm using spaced ss coils in my griffin 22's on power mode
8wraps of 316L 24 gauge on a 3mm ID and comes out at .2
It's amazing at 55/60w

[car147]

The only tank i have found to be close to a dripper flavour wise is the Uwell crown, not yet tried the likes of the Griffen, but for me even the Crius or Amromiser dont come close.

Beauty of the Crown is no fiddling about just pop a coil in and Bang! the only negative is stock coils as the RBA is carp imo.