Lords Vape Regret Motions Debate

[Postmodern Smoking]

The three regret motions will be debated at 7pm in the main chamber of the House of Lords on Monday 4th July (calendar.parliament.uk/calendar/Lords/All/2016/7/4/Daily). The Labour motion has the best chance of success, because there are a lot of Labour peers. The motions will not force the government to change anything but if any of them are successful it makes it a lot more likely that MPs will finally get to debate ecigs in the House of Commons, and that sensible vaping regulations will finally be on the table.

More info here, including how to watch: vapersinpower.wordpress.com/regret-motions-lordsvapevote/





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Regret Motions:

Lord Callanan to move that this House regrets that the Tobacco and Related Products Regulations 2016 place restrictions on product choice and advertising of vaping devices, were devised before evidence had accumulated that vaping was enabling many people to quit smoking, run counter to advice from the Royal College of Physicians to promote vaping and are so severe that they could force vapers back to smoking and create a black market with harmful products; and calls upon Her Majesty’s Government to withdraw them (SI 2016/507). (Dinner break business)

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath to move, as an amendment to the above motion, to leave out "and calls upon Her Majesty’s Government to withdraw them" and insert "and further regrets that the Regulations are not to be accompanied by a public information campaign to reassure smokers that electronic cigarettes are less harmful than normal smoking; that smoking cessation services are being cut back at the same time as the Regulations are being introduced; and that the Regulations are due for implementation before the Government have published their tobacco strategy."

Baroness Walmsley to move that, in the light of the prohibition of commercial advertising of vaping devices in the Tobacco and Related Products Regulations 2016 and the proven public health benefit to former smokers of switching to vaping devices, confirmed by the advice from the Royal College of Physicians that vaping is 95 per cent less harmful than smoking tobacco, and that half of all tobacco smokers die from smoking-related causes, this House regrets that the advertising ban would hinder e-cigarettes from being promoted as a way of assisting smokers to stop smoking tobacco, and that concerns regarding the restriction of the nicotine concentration of the vapour have not been properly addressed (SI 2016/507).

[sleedale]

Here's hoping....

[Postmodern Smoking]

A reminder that the debate will be televised 7pm-ish tonight, so you can watch it on:

VTTV (www.vapourtrails.tv/?page_id=41) which will be re-broadcasting the debate as it happens, with live chat & the presenters will be discussing events as they unfold.
or
Parliament TV (Freeview 131)
or
via the Parliament website (goo.gl/8eygyo).

[Postmodern Smoking]

VTTV live now on, LordsVape debate not quite started yet (they're still dealing with other business).

I'll post again when it starts.

[Postmodern Smoking]

STARTING now

[joeten]

Channel 131 is the House of Commons right now.

[Postmodern Smoking]

Then watch online joeten  





[ETA- I have amended my post above]

[joeten]

I 'am, though the glitches in the stream can be annoying.

[Postmodern Smoking]

Jul 4, 2016 19:13:28 GMT joeten said:

I 'am, though the glitches in the stream can be annoying.

I haven't had glitches (watching via VTTV), might be your internet connection 

[joeten]

I 'am on the gov website, 30mb connection so should work

[joeten]

The VVTV stream seems more stable

[Postmodern Smoking]

Update: Currently going to vote motions withdrawn 




[ETA] Lord Hunt of Kings Heath's motion defeated by 91 votes to 57, the other motions withdrawn.

[Chrissie]

Jul 4, 2016 20:09:51 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

Update: Currently going to vote motions withdrawn 

[joeten]

About were I thought it would be, the labour and lib-dems had it sewn up.

[Postmodern Smoking]

A lot of influence I think by ASH