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Post by crag on Apr 2, 2017 22:37:31 GMT
Sorry about the bold text, it wasn't meant to highlight big throat hit anymore than big taste, as both are important at the moment. I've also learnt today that I can't switch flavours after Red Astaire or any other thicker liquids without changing a coil, unless I vape for a day on an empty tank, lol.
I don't know if I did a daft thing mixing a tank half and half with Nokomis and Osuma. Bad flavour but good throat hit. From what I've been reading about curing vapers tongue, I think I'm in need ykchew a few lemons, yuk.
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Post by crag on Apr 2, 2017 22:14:36 GMT
Thank you. It's their BNH that I thought was good, but I ended up with vapours tongue. Funnily enough I tried it again today and still can't taste it. I've noted the Double Flavoured liquids too which may be worth a punt. A very brief scan of the reviews looks like it was the higher 30mg liquids tested which I imagine won't be around after May?
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Post by crag on Apr 2, 2017 18:32:28 GMT
If you want a strong flavour with a good hit then vampire vapes blackjack should do it for you crag Thank you. I shall put that on my list along with BCL.
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Post by crag on Apr 2, 2017 9:32:37 GMT
The hardest part of my 3 year vaping journey has been finding flavours that I like crag . I am lucky that I now have about 8 ADV's that I am happy with. I can make 12 samples, leave them to steep for 4 weeks and if 1 of them is right for me I think that is a result. You have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a prince. Mixing is a benefit in as much as you can change aand tweek untill you get it right, if you don't want to mix then I would suggest you find a good B&M where you can try lots at your leisure. If you add your location I am sure someone will point you in the right direction for a friendly B&M. Thanks. It's too early for DIY I think. Although if Vapourlites Tobacco was the only thing available, then I think I'd vape bleach. I need some more learning at present. Even though things backfired on them, Ecigwizard have put me off going in to a store. I get no kicks out of confrontation.
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Post by crag on Apr 2, 2017 9:24:42 GMT
I agree with much of what has been said above crag . It's trial and error until you find some nice flavours, but be prepared to fall 'out of love' with them as your tastebuds recover after smoking. Be brave and go for flavours that you think you won't like - there are thousands of good flavours out there, and you just don't know what floats your boat until you try them. There are some great online vendors out there, and if you want some suggestions I'm sure we can point you in the right direction. Remember that every day you vape is another day away from tobacco addiction, and another step towards being nicotine-dependent, a very different thing altogether. Keep at it,, and keep asking for advice, it's free here, and in plentiful supply Cheers Bud I'm willing to try Good Vendors. I shant be throwing away the liquids I'm not too keen on, as like you say my taste buds may improve in time. In the tobacco flavours I've ordered this weekend, one is a 24mg, which was against my stance on not buying things that would be not available after 20th May. But maybe I wanted to find what a higher nic would be like.
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Post by crag on Apr 2, 2017 9:16:04 GMT
Ah, well, there's the age old thing. Trying to get a flavour that resembles what you smoked.
When I first started vaping to quit smoking, I was one of those who thought I wanted a tobacco flavour to replicate what I smoked. I didn't listen to those who told me differently. I soon found that there are many tobacco flavoured juices - and many do resemble the smell of the dry tobacco leaf. But I've never found a vape that tastes like the draw from a burning cigarette. In the end, after quite a few disappointing encounters with various tobacco flavours, I found my joy in numerous other very unlikely directions - bakery, fruits and such.
My seach criteria is firstly for a big flavour, with a big throat hit, more importantly than the tobacco flavour, for somebody who through smoking has lost his taste buds somewhat. The tobacco flavour is probably helping as an ADV because im not getting that throat hit we can associate with middle tar cigarettes, or a strong enough flavour that also sticks in the mouth to remind you that you have just vaped. What I require is probably what a seasoned vaper would describe as 'harsh'. The mix of Omusa and PowWow juice isn't the best of flavours but it's throat hit is quite good
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Post by crag on Apr 2, 2017 8:55:51 GMT
Go & buy 18mg Manabush Nokomis & thank me later I found 18mg Chiricahua Sun better so far, and by mistake I've found mixing Omusa with PowWow juice even better
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Post by crag on Apr 1, 2017 20:29:04 GMT
Thank you Gill2009
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Post by crag on Apr 1, 2017 19:15:32 GMT
Ah, I have anxcuse for using ecigwazard. I went instore to buy some flavours, unaware i could try some, but I was desperate as the couple of bottles I bought online (from elsewhere) with the T18 were so bad I needed something quick. Anyway when I went instore, I couldnt see, and the smell of whatever was choking. I explained I'd only just got my first ecig, but they tried to embarrass me in front of some seasoned vapers. They then tried to sell me from the bargain bucket. I asked for a strawberry, as you do, and Dark Horse and a Grape, was also handed to me. So I won't be going back or purchasing anything off them in future. Sorry, but it's the best excuse I have, As I mentioned before, 'Vaping for Dummies' is not so easy when the only option is to buy online. I know we all have differing tastes, but I had it in my head that a lot of vapers are ex smokers, and probably have had their taste buds battered by smoking, but have found a flavour/brand etc that has become a standard for those new to vaping. After all there are favoured analogues that are way more popular than other brands, if you get my drift
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Post by crag on Apr 1, 2017 18:15:53 GMT
There really is no "closest to tobacco smoke" crag (This from someone who vapes a tobacco-style every day).... Manabush is a step up from ecigwizard though... (which I wouldn't waste any money on in all honesty).... You should make you own long-term unless you go all fruity. Oh don't get me started with DIY. I'm enough of a problem on these boards with 'Ready Mades' Saying that. I have 10ml of grape that I can't stand, (surprisingly by ecigwizard) that may have to be added to something at a later date to use up. I've read there are no 'close to tobacco flavours' but they all seem to claim one in their products. But even if I've a garbage flavour in the tank, when there's a chance to vape, I can't put the damn thing down, but on the plus side, it keeps me from smoking.
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Post by crag on Apr 1, 2017 12:35:38 GMT
I'm doing ok leaving the analogues alone, and happy with that, but suffering a bit with frustration on flavours, and having to put up with some bad tastes. I'm reading about so many different brands, and as an example, reviews on tobacco flavours and the vast majority that xxxxxx brand is the closest flavour to real tobacco. Yet you try one or two and they are nothing like. Maybe the brand I used to smoke was the only brand that didn't have caramel or whatever flavouring in it. And throat hit is important at the moment. Then researching into flavours so as not to buy stuff that's becoming unavailable. I expected to buy the odd bottle now and again for variation, but not this much. I've ordered a few different fruit ones today, and that's the end of my ordering for a while till I finish a few. There's one or two that I won't load up with again. But I will add some Omusa with the PowWow again as PowWow on its own isn't for me. The mix was good earlier.
It's worse than giving up smoking, lol
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Post by crag on Apr 1, 2017 8:40:54 GMT
Well the Red Astaire has gone back in the draw for now as that's a keeper, while I try some more flavours or finish the ones I'm not getting on with. Still not sure on Nokomis, Osuma seemed a bit better though. I've loaded with PowWow today and don't know whether I've stumbled on something I shouldn't have, but only having one tank, when I change a flavour I am aware there'll be some of the previous liquid on the coil. So I believe I may be getting a blast of both Osuma and PowWow. After reading reviews on PowWow, it was the one I was least confident in. What it's like later may be a different matter, but at the moment YeeeHaaa. I'm getting a good throat hit, and the taste is ok. Not fab, not crap, but ok.
Just ordered some Hangsen tobacco flavours to try as I'm convinced tobacco is the 'all day vape' for me at present, and fruit for that occasional vape. Also ordered a new Nautilus 2 so I can change about without having to wait to empty the tank.
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Post by crag on Mar 29, 2017 22:26:18 GMT
Thank you people. Red Astaire came yesterday, which is good, but I couldn't use it as an all day vale. I got a couple of Manabush to try too. The Capa-thingy-wotsit Sun is a good taste, and probably the best for amount of vapour that I've had, but lacking on a throat hit. I'll try the Nokomis tomorrow and see how that goes.
The learning curve is a bit frustrating at times, and I'll be glad when this coughing clears up too. Only a coulple of days away from it being 3 weeks since smoking a fag. The vaping Saturday and Sunday was blooming awful, but at least I left the Lambert and Butlers alone.
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Post by crag on Mar 26, 2017 20:01:36 GMT
I've got some 14mg red astaire here crag if you want it, a bit short of the nic level you're on, but at least you'll get to taste it before outlaying anymore cash. Thank you for the offer, that's very kind of you. I have put in a order for the Red Astaire this morning so should be with me in a couple of days, hopefully before I have wall paper and plaster under my finger nails. It's not so much the outlay of cash, it's the hassle of having to go online and ordering stuff, and then the wait. And then there's the frustration of thinking I've set myself up for a while, and realising I haven't. I expected to be buying the odd bottle here and there to try, but it's a bit manic at the moment. I've switched the strawberry for a raspberry which I bought to try which is bareable, and the BNH for Dark Horse which I find quite yuk. It seems I've lost the throat hit too at the minute. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by crag on Mar 26, 2017 9:04:20 GMT
.... But both bought after EE reading reviews. The only thing that concerns me about both models is reading batteries may only last 3-6 months. I didn't find vaping harsher than smoking, or is this vapers tongue telling me otherwise? Can I ask about "after EE reading reviews" please? - I'm not sure I understand. (Not all reviews can be trusted... ) The battery thing seems an odd conclusion to draw as well. Vaping can be very harsh at first. I smoked RYO and often purchased exotic (legal) loose tobaccos of varying strengths. Vaping was very hard for me; it took me a year just to reach 9 watts. Sorry, forget the EE, it was phone typing error and shouldn't have been there at all I'm on a learning curve. I expected to change a coil after a week, from what I read. I have changed one, and that may be because I had vapers tongue and not a used coil. How long a battery's life span is I don't know? Until it dies I won't know, only by what I read on these forums. Flavours are a learning curve too. I expected 2 or 3 to get me by, till I can try some more. I've made a mistake in buying 30ml bottles of flavours that were ok for me, instead of buying a bigger variety of 10mls. And I've 3 10ml bottles of flavours I won't use again after their trial
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