510LR Attys-TERRIBLE.

[ian]

Well im very pleased with everything i had off you last time James.You have won my trade forever.Atleast you can get supplies from yourself.LF have had no decent tobacco liquid in for a long time now.And last 8 atties have been worst ive ever had.I used to shop with them alot,NOT ANY MORE.

[ian]

Yes Scylla,I agree.I would be more than willing to pay £20 for an atty with a 6month guarantee.IF it was made with proper quality control and out of decent materials.I mean these manufacturers are halfway there but really do need to start considering customer satisfaction instead of making them as cheap as possible and lineing their pockets with our hard earned dough.Very suprised no one has pushed this issue to the max.An e-cig is easily modded and made up,why should attys be any different???

[Perpetua]

Playing devil's advocate a bit here, but . . . look at the longevity of an atty from a supplier's point of view, they're the part of an ecig that we all need to replace the most . . . I wonder how many of us, who whilst shopping for replacement atomisers have also bought other goods at the same time?

Would it be in a supplier's interest to have an atty that does last 6months? The market must be pretty well saturated compared to how it was a couple of years ago, so it has to be tough to compete thesedays, I'd have thought.

[ian]

That is a very true point.If atties are made to last 6 months they would lose ALOT of revenue.Im sure every one does what i do.Go to buy atties specifically then end up with a cart containing half the shop that you never intended to buy.I do like to try new things so if i see anything new i cant rest until its in the cart.Tut.But then again i still maintain that if better materials were used and more money and time were put into each atty they could be FAR better.Would have thought Mr Dibley would have had a go at this by now.

[Perpetua]

It's kinda human nature isn't it Ian, when you're in a lovely online ecig shop to pop a few extra goodies you've not tried into your cart, I know I do.

Again, I wonder if the ecig market is attracting enough new vapers to keep everyone in business, plus the competition from China - it can't be easy.

I'm all for a longer lasting atomiser at a premium price, but at what cost would it be.

I'd like Mr D to put a bigger activation button on his devices as well.

[ian]

Now that is exactly what i have been thinking.The bloody button is the ONLY one thing that i would like to see become better.Im really happy you have said that Perpy.I feel like im the only one person on ere that seems to moan about everything.lol.Yes i strongly agree that it tends to dig into ya finger and just generally iritates me.Just a good job that the over all product is so good.

[Scylla]

I am perpetually (ooh, I never thought of the connection until I typed that) worried about the survival of our suppliers. Because of this, I can't stick with one, so no-one treasures me for loyalty. Worse... oh dear, I've forgotten what I was going to say next

Whether it's James not making enough profit cos of his rock-bottom prices and freebies, or other suppliers whose prices seem too high, or suppliers getting criticised for not adhering to DSRs on these dodgy components they're selling, I worry worry worry

So yes, I'd worry that a long-lasting atty could bankrupt our suppliers

scylla

[Perpetua]

Lol Scylla!

It's a similar conumdrum to the High Street one in my head . . . do you support your local butcher,baker etc ( if you're lucky enough to still have them ) or do you go to one of the large supermarket chains to get all your shopping and sacrifice having a more personal service over price.

I'm as guilty as anyone, as I buy from where I can get the best deal - the TECC sale I'm sure spoilt us on our perception of ecig prices and what we feel is an acceptable price to pay for supplies.

Lol Ian! We don't moan . . . . just make constructive observations!

[lynwlt]

A few years ago I decided to support my local milkman. I thought 3 pints a week would do me but I ended up with the milk just piling up in my fridge....
I just had to cancel him and felt dreadful about it. I don't think he would have been interested in supplying me with one pint a week.
Lynda

[ian]

Fair play Lynda.That is spot on.A very good way of looking at the situation with our manufacturers.I dont blame the actual companys who sell them on,just the factorys where these attys are made.I mean with my attys just lately i REALLY think a blind person has made them.They rush them to the suppliers with no proper quality control.IF each one was tested out then WHY do you get them dead on arrival sometimes?I think i want to arrange to visit one of these factorys to see just what goes on.Any one gonna come with me???LOL.

[lynwlt]

I'll come with you Ian...

[ian]

Many thanks Mr James.Order arrived this mng.HOW do you do it??Posted sat and ere first thing mon mng?AMAZING SERVICE.And once again super products.I KNEW that it was just bad batch of atties i had lately,coz James your LR 510 is SUPER.Never thought it was me for a minute coz im a pretty seasoned vaper and know how to use my supplys.WILL DEFO be ordering more of these on Fri.All juices are lovely and am LOVE LOVING the menthol.Thanks again and will be posting my reviews in the shop shortly.

[ken]

Nov 22, 2010 11:32:40 GMT ian said:

Fair play Lynda.That is spot on.A very good way of looking at the situation with our manufacturers.I dont blame the actual companys who sell them on,just the factorys where these attys are made.I mean with my attys just lately i REALLY think a blind person has made them.They rush them to the suppliers with no proper quality control.IF each one was tested out then WHY do you get them dead on arrival sometimes?I think i want to arrange to visit one of these factorys to see just what goes on.Any one gonna come with me???LOL.

Hi Ian and a belated welcome.

I think a little bit differently to you in as much as I blame the suppliers for accepting dud products and passing them on to the customers. There is really no excuse as far as I am concerned as if the suppliers stopped stocking them things might improve.
In my opinion the suppliers are happy with the situation as they make more money when re-selling more atties to customers who have to have their fix. >

We the customers don't buy from the manufacturers but from a supplier who should be brought to account for selling dud products and if that happened then things might change.

Okay at the end of the day the suppliers will maybe make less money but thats their problem.

Some people here are still trying to get off the evil weed and cannot afford the extra cost. If suppliers cared they would address the situation.

Rant over and I'm quite sure that some may disagree but this is my honest opinion.

Ken.

[hissie]

I don't disagree Kenny. If James can sell quality products why can't the other suppliers?

[ian]

Hi there Kenny.YES mate you are 1 million percent rite.If everyone in the e-cig market did things the rite way then half these petty but irritating problems would not exist.I used e-cigs to escape the wicked weed and as we all do,rely on them very much.Have spent so much money trying to find the best bits and bobs but TBH James has won my custom forever as a pattern of consistancy is going on since i changed to his products.Also James is VERY fair with price.EXCELLENT.Ive used all the big guns to,Totally wicked,LF etc and have NEVER had this same consistancy with products.Since Perpy advised me about getting the correct power source for my GD Passthrough,TOUCH WOOD have had 0 vapeing issues using Jimmys products.Am still waiting for this hub thingy to arrive,as i have said before im quite good with e-cig use but a total newbie to the passthrough.REALLY glad i joined the forum and lovely to find that im not the only vaper with issues and frustrations due to sub standard products and performance.