Mixing Tips, Tricks, Questions & Answers

[DiscoDes]

Sept 20, 2012 21:14:13 GMT DiscoDes said:

HERE is the link to an Android E liquid calculator. I've not tried it but the reviews are ok.

Actually there's a few in the PlayStore most are Free.

[Brian]

Thats the same as skwoddys Des.

The itunes one that skwoddy mentioned where it is based on weight seems a lot easier and more consistant than drops and per ml

[OneDay]

e-smoker has a good calculator and also a widget showing cigs avoided, money saved and +/- overall based on your purchases.

[Juice Kitchen]

and another iphone app - looks pretty neat this one! Again it has recipes. Not got an iphone myself so cannot comment.

k2designlab.home.comcast.net/~k2designlab/k2designlab/Home.html

[womble]

I've thought about making my own, but my tastes are pretty much Vermillion river tobacco blends only and I've nothing I've tried comes close to them yet.

And I've tried ALOT! I'm not sure I could make something as complex as those

[Skwoddy]

Sept 20, 2012 22:18:17 GMT womble said:

I've thought about making my own, but my tastes are pretty much Vermillion river tobacco blends only and I've nothing I've tried comes close to them yet.

And I've tried ALOT! I'm not sure I could make something as complex as those

TPA Hazelnut
TPA Marshmallow
TPA Caramel
TPA Dk Tobacco

that comes very close, ill get the percentages, latakia added at 2% makes it nice too

www.vapetime.co.uk/Latakia-vape-juice-by-FlavourArt

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

To answer a few of the questions posted above…..

Motormadfrosty, A mix for RY4, Hmmm I have tasted RY4 from different vendors and they all vary, tell me what you like, and If I have some of that make to use as a flavour guide I’ll give it a go.

DiscoDes, Yep loads, what sort of tastes / flavours do you like?

Moon, Every flavour, even from the same manufacturer can vary by it’s strength… and taste, each will also taste different ( strong or weak) to each and everyone’s pallet, for example:- In the one above I mix the Banana at 15% of the total mix, if I was using say, Walnut, from the same place I would be at about 18% as I like it a bit stronger and it tastes a bit weaker to me, the cream from the same maker is very strong to my taste, and only needs about 5% max in any thing.

Another factor is when combining flavours; some boost or enhance others, whilst some mask others to a degree, if all that makes sense.

I use a graduated 5ml and 1ml syringe for all my mixing, and add each to a 10ml graduated beaker to double check.

Brianfletch, I never use drops as they vary so much, each dropper is different, and each liquid has a different viscosity, VG may be 20 drops against PG being 27 with the same dropper…. To much variation.

I use a juice calculator to work out my mixes and recommend “ejuice me up” a free bit of software that is very good and easy to use, you can store your recipes in it as well, and it comes with a load of recipes already, They use some of mine.

Blakey, I do a very nice cocomel myself, one of my top 10 vapes, but I can’t tell you how it compares to Griz’s one, as I have never purchased any.

Womble, yes they are good, I have made one that comes very close to the Vermillion river peach, as I like that, but it is made with my own extracted tobacco essence, as I couldn’t find a pre made concentrate that did it…. Not an easy one to replicate, but not impossible.

A lot of people start out trying to replicate other makers flavours, OK, use them as a guide for a flavour you like, but on the way you will tweak here and there, and more times than not, end up with a mix that’s better (to your taste). The commercial flavoured juices are trying to catch a wide range.

Tobacco’s are a whole new ball game…. to get a good tobacco flavour you need to extract the flavour from whole leaf tobacco. Outside the scope of this discussion.

Cupcake world intense range of flavours are used by many e-cig vendors, and even rebottled and sold as "their own brand" flavour concentrates by some…. So go to the source and get 28.5ml for £2.49 instead of say £3.99 for 5mls of the same stuff.
They will also combine postage for up to about 6 bottles for the same postage as one if you ask.


Happy to answer any other questions…. It’s not rocket science, and really isn’t hard to do folks if you have some taste buds….. give it a go…. (or maybe, I’m shooting myself in the foot, I should start selling my juice).

[ant]

Great post but I promised not to spend for a while, I spent about £50 on flavours and about 5 are good, some of the flavours are fine after a week of steeping but I'm impatient. I bookmarked the cake shop and will give this a go next month though
Thanks

[kruegerbait]

Sept 20, 2012 23:06:00 GMT Frogster (The Alchemist) said:

Cupcake world intense range of flavours are used by many e-cig vendors, and even rebottled and sold as "their own brand" flavour concentrates by some…. So go to the source and get 28.5ml for £2.49 instead of say £3.99 for 5mls of the same stuff.

This is good to know as I was asking about these a month or two ago after coming across them for sale on Amazon but nobody had tried them. I've got some money in Amazon so I'll give them a go now.

[DiscoDes]

Frogster (The Alchemist) can you link to the cheap scales you bought from flea bay please?

:-)

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[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

'Twas not me DiscoDes, I think it was Skwoody...

[thehitman]

Nice post

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[DiscoDes]

Sept 21, 2012 6:24:29 GMT Frogster (The Alchemist) said:

'Twas not me DiscoDes, I think it was Skwoody...

Ahhh, I'm having a D'OH! moment

With regards to recipes do you have any menthol/fruit blends and anythinh with cinnamon/fruit please?

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Sept 21, 2012 0:08:14 GMT ant said:

I spent about £50 on flavours and about 5 are good, some of the flavours are fine after a week of steeping but I'm impatient.

The huge range of pre mixed e-cig flavours available from the equally huge number of e-cig providers, is “consumer proof” that we all have different taste perceptions. Some people will love a flavour, some will hate it, a lot will fall in-between.

So it is a trial and error game I am afraid, but at least mixing your own gives you the ability to be able to adjust the strength and tweak a flavour when you find some you like. Also mixing two flavours that maybe are on the “so-so” scale to you, can give surprising results, so what might be seen as a fail at first, often can turn into a gain later when mixed with something else.

Liquorice is an example, for me, I hate it alone, but when I added a tad in one of my tobaccos, it was a Ohhh… Mmmmmm… moment (I think another Mixer uses it in this way). That is why I would never say this flavour is the best and that one is Urgh! I am sure, they all have their place, somewhere, it's just finding where for some of them.

I too have purchased flavours that are just plain unpalatable to me, but they may be another person’s gold. (I feel a flavour concentrate swap-shop coming on).

“Cupcake world”, I think have currently 57 different flavours, enough to keep a lot of people mixing and trying combinations for a good while (and I use them as an example only, I want to clarify and state, I have no connection or vested interest, I just find their intense flavour range good and find myself using their flavours more and more).

I think many, many people are easily capable of creating and mixing their own, and with practice fine tuning and tweaking that elusive sort after “all day vape” to their own personal taste, rather than having to accept what is being offered.

[blakey]

To tell the truth frogster I really can't be assed with mixing. I have made cocomel and it was very good but its so much easier to let that genius that is griz mix it for me, he does a far better job and leaves no mess