Really struggling :(

[4madcats]

Hi, I can only echo what the others have already said, but I also see that it's only 5 days since your last cig so there,s absolutely nothing to beat yourself up about.
I would definitely go with the advice to try more flavours. RY4 is my main vape but if the taste buds go abit blah or I start to get bored with it I have quite a few different fruit flavours to chop & change with. Even the few occasions when I've thought having a cig would be good, if I change to a different flavour, thinking about that takes my thoughts away from having a cig. IMHO I think sometimes it's about breaking the habit of smoking by diverting yourself with something else, & analyzing new flavours does that for me. Also if you only buy a small menthol you can certainly add a few drops to your RY4 & you almost have mint humbugs , but I would use a different cart/clearo whatever so you don't contaminate everything with mint .
Griswalds do a great pick & mix selection & their juices are really good.

[Ewol]

Any in particular you recommend? Can't really afford to try that many and not like em.

[ant]

Ewol, do you have any shops close that you could go test some juices before you buy?

[vapourized]

I know exactly where your coming from mate (see my recent post on starting smoking again). It can be tough and the worst thing for me is the guilt of having a smoke when I've said to myself and other people that I've stopped smoking BUT having said that and listening to the good folk on this forum then having the occasional one or two is far better than the 20 odd you were smoking. As long as it doesn't get out of control then as far as I'm concerned then there's no harm in these early days in having a couple now and again.

As been said before smoking is not just addictive for the nicotine, it's also very habitual, my wife for instance always goes outside for her last vape in the evening as that was what she would do when she smoked so perhaps when you go for a drink with your mates then maybe just change the routine slightly by only taking say 2 cigarettes with you and pace yourself through the evening. Allowing yourself to have a cigarette may just take the pressure off to actually have one.

Since owning up to smoking again this morning, I don't (or can't be bothered) to go out to the car and have a cigarette - it's weird.

Graham

[goofy]

Personally i think it helps to be honest with yourself and friends and family. You're trying to give up a highly addictive habit and it's certainly not easy as the vast majority of us will attest to! As i said in vapourized's thread, i've slipped up a couple of times too, it's not the end of the world I think it helps a lot to find a setup that really hits the spot (perfect voltage, atty and juice) and it's taken me a few quid to find that setup but now that i have it the urge to have a real cig has pretty much passed altogether

So, don't beat yourself up about it......... and good luck

[Ewol]

Thanks for the replies guys, sorry I don't have time to write a proper reply I'm on my toes at the moment.

Oct 13, 2012 13:35:15 GMT ant said:

Ewol, do you have any shops close that you could go test some juices before you buy?

Yeah, got one pretty close (vapeescape). I don't have one of those atomizer things to test the different juices though. Might be able to figure something out though.

[vapourized]

Oct 13, 2012 14:06:10 GMT Ewol said:

...Yeah, got one pretty close (vapeescape).

Cor, you lucky bugga. If I had Vape Escape near me I'd be in there everyday.

Graham

[flimflam]

Oct 13, 2012 11:58:24 GMT Ewol said:

... It's more the social side of things that I'm struggling with. Like when I used to walk to the shop I would light up a cig so I wasn't walking to the shop doing nothing, if I never I would feel very self conscious if that makes sense.

Hi ewol,

Being as you're pretty new to vaping it sounds to me that you might be missing the familiarity of having something 'ciggy' sized for your hands to play with while drinking / socialising etc. Though it goes against what most advice would be (for quality of vape and such), maybe getting something like this for those occasions:
www.vapeescape.co.uk/the-vape-escape-pcc-kit-**introductory-price**~425

Just a thought, but a lot of the attraction of smoking tabs is down to hand to mouth etc, and nowt to do with nicotine and such.

BTW, the one I've linked to has the same thread fittings as Rivas etc so all your cartos etc would still fit.

'Nother thing I found useful was to have some 'bitter' juices on hand for when having a few beers. Sweet / minty ones just don't go with an ale or three!

Few good 'boozing' baccy flavours:
Hangsen: HS Delight, Impulse, Storm
Dekang: Tobacco, Desert Ship, DK Tab (this one is pretty much the twin of HS Storm, but yer cartos last 'bout twice as long )

Cheers (and keep the faith!),
John


P.S. If you do get a little 'cigalike' like the one above, get at least 1 extra battery. They don't last long!

Edited for spelling mistales

[Ewol]

Oct 13, 2012 13:51:01 GMT vapourized said:

I know exactly where your coming from mate (see my recent post on starting smoking again). It can be tough and the worst thing for me is the guilt of having a smoke when I've said to myself and other people that I've stopped smoking BUT having said that and listening to the good folk on this forum then having the occasional one or two is far better than the 20 odd you were smoking. As long as it doesn't get out of control then as far as I'm concerned then there's no harm in these early days in having a couple now and again.

As been said before smoking is not just addictive for the nicotine, it's also very habitual, my wife for instance always goes outside for her last vape in the evening as that was what she would do when she smoked so perhaps when you go for a drink with your mates then maybe just change the routine slightly by only taking say 2 cigarettes with you and pace yourself through the evening. Allowing yourself to have a cigarette may just take the pressure off to actually have one.

Since owning up to smoking again this morning, I don't (or can't be bothered) to go out to the car and have a cigarette - it's weird.

Graham

I feel extremely guilty too, I've been hiding it from my uhm.. let's say room mate. She's very anti-smoking to begin with so if she found out I was having the odd cheeky one she'd hit the roof. Telling her really isn't an option I think. She's scary, believe me.

Being as you're pretty new to vaping it sounds to me that you might be missing the familiarity of having something 'ciggy' sized for your hands to play with while drinking / socialising etc. Though it goes against what most advice would be (for quality of vape and such), maybe getting something like this for those occasions:

Actually mate, I don't think that's the problem. I have no real attachment to the traditional cigarette. It's more the feeling I get after a real one, not even the taste. (which I'm finding weirdly disgusting lately) It's almost like afterwards I'm filled with a short-term confidence.

I'm hoping it's just getting bored of the juice I have. I haven't tried many so I don't know if RY4 is considered 'sweet' or not, but it sure seems it when you're having a black coffee or a pint of bitter. Been interested in that HS Delight for a while now, but I'm also craving something fruity at times too.

[fresarubia]

Hi,

I'd agree with flimflam about the cigalike. I had first night out with other smokers about a week ago and took both my ego and little 510 kit out with me. I used the ego when I wanted lots of vapour and throat hit, but I did need to switch to the more familiar sized 510 a couple of times.

Good luck!

[OneDay]

Ewol there's some great advice here already. One extra thing to mention. You're not just starting vaping, you are giving up smoking. Tobacco contains 4,000 chemicals, not just nicotine. Many of those are addictive, including some that act on seratonin levels in much the same way as anti-anxiety drugs. So your anxiety / panic will increase temporarily.

I suffer with the same illness, and I did notice an increase in my symptoms during the very early days of giving up smoking. Stick with it, stay strong, and it will pass. If it takes a few fags to get past it, don't sweat it.

[4madcats]

Wow your near to vapeescape, lucky you , guess that means that you'll be pretty much sorted for grizwalds, but what flavours ???. Everyones tastes are different, normally I'd say I don't have a sweet tooth, don't do puddings, sweeties or chocolate but I am drawn to sweeter vapes. My favs are raspberry truffle, lots of peeps go for cherry but I think this beats it hands down. Banoffee cream, mint choc chip & gingerbread. Citirus spring is nice to freshen up your taste buds & I've heard the hypnotique comes well recommended. I also have apple, blueberry & grape from other vendors but I don't think they do samplers.
Right now I have 5 different flavours on the go & if I get bored or itchy for a cig I just swap to a different flavour & that generally sorts me. It's also good you have an atty, dead easy to swap & try new flavours.
Onedays advice is so totally true, it's not just the nicotine you're dealing with. Don't think anyone knows exactly how cigs affect us or what they put in us so it's always going to take time to let your body adjust.
Stick with it mate, your doing really well so far & the advice on here is so sound.

[andym]

ewol,hang on in there Dude.Its a BIG thing to kick the stinkies,its not just the chemicals etc,but it has a huge Psychological aspect to it.When i started vaping i purposly kept well away from Tobacco flavoured juices.I didnt want to "replicate" the taste and flavour of a stinkie,i just wanted the nicotine hit with a great flavour.I tried loads of juices,with loads of combinations of PG/VG.It took a while but(here it goes again,like a cracked record!)i settled on 2 juices.You say youd like to try a fruity juice,then in my humble opinion you CANT get better than Alba's Swedish Fish.its difficult to describe but look at the reviews of it on their site.I vape this all day long and then Grant's Vanilla Custard,after a meal as a Dessert Vape.

[Ewol]

I think I found a short term fix! Chain vaping.

Swedish Fish sounds amazing. I've been watching E-Liquid reviews on youtube all day. Cheers, andym.

[Deleted]

I personally would drop my nic to 11mg and chain vape
but it would help if you find a delish flavour that gives a good throat hit, tell all your mates what you are doing (the good ones will help and back you)
and if poss vape inside (landlord permitting) that ways you avoid the smokers and the temptation

above all find what suits and "think of the fags you haven't had" is a very popular phrase here
dont beat yourself up buddy just find something that suits