Dream Group Buy Atomiser ~ Techie Talk

[blakey]

Jan 18, 2013 9:24:53 GMT lisa said:

Confused as to what the top cap is from the stardust is

I think he means the silicon cap that sits over the coil tube lisa.

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Ah right cheers

[maccafan]

Yes the silicone cap. I removed the O ring and used this and it's a lot more slippery and does not grab the cone so much and and allows the dream top cap to rotate independently..Therefore you can open the cone a touch to aid feeding and the cone does not tighten down when you tighten down the top cap..

The next thing I am going to try or if anyone else wants to try is to feed the wick and shorten it only halfway through the channels and leave the cone fully tightened down..

I have been speaking to the manufacturer to try and explain the concept of a little threaded ring to control the airflow..Finding it a bit of a uphill task at the mo..

[Greigster]

I thought you didn't like smilies Macca

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Filler hole done, I used a vivi nova tank and made the hole by heating up a screwdriver and pushing through the tank. It's a tight fit and no o-ring fitted yet as I don't have one small enough. No leaks either.

Next I will attempt to make an adjustable air control, thinking along the lines of a "zap airy draw fix"

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[cyman404]

Received mine yesterday. Great service as usual. Thanks Macca, Perps.

Had a quick look at the wick/coil set up. Didn't look very promising. Wick was loose inside the coil, and the coil gaps were all quiet large. I've decided to leave them as they are.
After reading feedback from the others, followed Macca example and used the O ring from the stardust in the top cone to ensure top cop can be independently unscrewed and at the same time left the cone unscrewed by about 1.5 turns to aid feeding of the juice and made sure I had my wick in the channels.
Filled it with Pipesauce Oak Barrel Cider (18mg) to just above the cone and screwed in top cop slowly. No leaks at all. Left it for a few minutes and I've noticed that the juice level dropped. I though maybe I had a leak, but no, it just the wick got saturated with juice.

Plopped it on Sigeli Zmax, power set to 5W. Coil read 2.2 Ohm. Now the big test....first vape...
Fired the button, took a deep toke. Hmmmm....no throathit, maybe it's not firing....but...hold on...there is fog coming out of my mouth...so it is firing...took another deep toke...even more fog and.....WOW!!!...yes...the flavour is there, plenty of vapour and at last a bit of a throathit.

In a nutshell, I'm a happy chappy. No dry hits whatsoever. I've filled mine twice now and had no problem at all. No leaks as yet. Draw is VERY airy, but I like it that way, so no problem for me, plenty of vapour and taste and a decent throathit.

All in all, worth every penny.

Let's hope v2 will incorporate airflow control and an easier juice fill up method.

[pjim]

Got mine today, brought off Dee on the Classies. It looks pretty good, shame its plated, but for the money not suprising, a cheapo but should vape alright I think. Everything fits together pretty well. I'll set it up later and see how it does.

[Ron]

As reported yesterday my vamo reported Lo so I thought it was my home made coil that had blown.After carefully stripping down I checked the coil and it was intact.rebuilt and fitted a silicon cover from a ce5 as suggested and it is vaping very well now.I suppose as the cone moved it dislodged the position of the coil/wick.
When I made the coil and wick it came in at 2.9 a little higher than I planned but on reassembly today it has come in at 2.0 so will toke away on it and watch the progress.I also put the cone hard down and am getting no dry hits up to now

[Andrew]

Do I have a hybrid ?

My coil is set in a loose ceramic cup with only one screw pin.

It works but cannot see this ceramic item in other photos.

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[maccafan]

That's interesting..Yes, that's the exception rather than the norm..

I was attempting to do the same with some spare ceramics I have lying around..

[lobeydosser]

Thanks to the other comments in this thread, I have put an "O" ring in the bottom and used a pin to position it to give me the draw I want.
By then screwing the cone right down, the atty is working well and giving me all the throat hit and taste that I would wish for.
I'm still using the coil and wick that it came with.

A quick update to this post.
By screwing the cone right down, I do have to slow down my vaping times. No chain vaping unless I unscrew the cone a tad.

[Andrew]

Jan 18, 2013 13:16:02 GMT maccafan said:

That's interesting..Yes, that's the exception rather than the norm..

I was attempting to do the same with some spare ceramics I have lying around..

Yes it is an interesting set up. The ceramic "floats" and it is only when the cone/juice control is screwed on does it align to airflow tube.

What gets me is one coil tail is secured by the mini screw part and the other is just poked down the hole - but it works !

I have the juice control screwed right down (to hold the ceramic in place) and it works !

Used the CE4 silicone cap as well. Playing with the airhole to adjust draw.

Going to try now without the ceramic cup.

[dave]

I've been having a think about this and playing around with mine and also remembering a few things about Tayfuns I had forgotten to mention. To use them like an Oddy with the cone unscrewed a bit for juice feed you obviously have to mod them to allow that and people seem to be having success with that approach. I've stuck with using it like a Tayfun but realised that the amount you fill it up to is not the critical thing.
The first point is to make sure that the O ring is seated as far as you can get it up in the top cap - it often comes out on the end of the cone when you unscrew the top. When you screw the top cap down it should only bite (and hence start building up pressure) for the last couple of turns.
The second point is to make sure the wick is not tightly packed in the cone - you actually need very little wick in your tails with this.
Finally screw the cone down tightly
I filled mine right up to the top, in fact I slightly over-filled it. When you screw the top on the liquid goes down with the last couple of turns as the pressure builds and it is forced up the channels into the base of the cone.
Because I slightly over-filled it a little juice leaked out of the airhole and I had a couple of gurgly vapes, but since that it has been fine. I just stuck a bit of stellotape over my airhole and pushed a paperclip through it to reduce the airflow which seems to work OK but you have to strike a balance between airlow and the effect it has on juice flow with these.
Even if you fill it right up, the juice capacity of these is not great - less than a Vivi Nova because of all the space taken up by the chamber/ cone. That is not a problem for me, but if you want more capacity the V3 of the Tayfun is out soon and holds 6.5ml of juice, or if you are a really heavy vaper you can double up the tank and put 13.5ml in!
I'm still enjoying using this - not as good as my mini Tayfun, but still very good for me, especially for the price
Look forward to reading more about your experiments and experience with this!

[maccafan]

Jan 18, 2013 15:48:18 GMT Andrew said:

Jan 18, 2013 13:16:02 GMT maccafan said:

That's interesting..Yes, that's the exception rather than the norm..

I was attempting to do the same with some spare ceramics I have lying around..

Yes it is an interesting set up. The ceramic "floats" and it is only when the cone/juice control is screwed on does it align to airflow tube.

What gets me is one coil tail is secured by the mini screw part and the other is just poked down the hole - but it works !

I have the juice control screwed right down (to hold the ceramic in place) and it works !

Used the CE4 silicone cap as well. Playing with the airhole to adjust draw.

Going to try now without the ceramic cup.

My bad Andrew I just remembered a few minutes ago..That setup was most likely me. Doing night shifts does not help with remembering stuff..

I remember taking one and trying a ceramic cup from a CE2 on it and it was one of the two I meant to keep for myself and must have posted it by mistake and kept a different one in error..Sorry mate..But there are spare pins in the 5 pack of wicks that you must have received and you can remove the ceramic cup and use one of the spare pins instead..