Phoenix dripper

[Karma]

Jan 29, 2013 18:41:41 GMT skipraider said:

Some UK vendors are very good, but there are some new ones just trying to cash in. When I check the contact details it turns out to be a (dodgy looking, on street view) private address.

I worry about the small kitchen mixers starting out I know businesses have to start somewhere but the Health and Safety aspects and the field day that the authorities would have if something went wrong, worries me

[madwill]

Jan 29, 2013 18:48:43 GMT Karma said:

Jan 29, 2013 18:41:41 GMT skipraider said:

Some UK vendors are very good, but there are some new ones just trying to cash in. When I check the contact details it turns out to be a (dodgy looking, on street view) private address.

I worry about the small kitchen mixers starting out I know businesses have to start somewhere but the Health and Safety aspects and the field day that the authorities would have if something went wrong, worries me

Karma , I agree with this 100% its very worrying ,i mean they could be mixing this stuff in a rat infested shed for all we know and i do think this needs to be regulated even if its just basic food and hygiene certification.
Also agree with skipraider post a lot of theese sellers are just middle men buying from china and selling on for a huge profit from their spare rooms/garages etc.

[Karma]

Jan 29, 2013 18:52:08 GMT madwill said:

Jan 29, 2013 18:48:43 GMT Karma said:

,i mean they could be mixing this stuff in a rat infested shed for all we know and i do think this needs to be regulated even if its just basic food and hygiene certification.

I have a basic food hygiene certificate, that doesn't entitle me to cook anything in my own kitchen to take to work as my kitchen hasn't been passed by the local authority

[Gordy]

Jan 29, 2013 18:48:43 GMT Karma said:

Jan 29, 2013 18:41:41 GMT skipraider said:

Some UK vendors are very good, but there are some new ones just trying to cash in. When I check the contact details it turns out to be a (dodgy looking, on street view) private address.

I worry about the small kitchen mixers starting out I know businesses have to start somewhere but the Health and Safety aspects and the field day that the authorities would have if something went wrong, worries me

thats a VERY good point Karma ...i wont buy from any 'homemade' juice vendor ...simply as hygiene and quality is questionable ...specially as we are not ingesting these products but inhaling them

[Sandra (aka Chillax)]

Jan 29, 2013 18:55:57 GMT Karma said:

Jan 29, 2013 18:52:08 GMT madwill said:

Jan 29, 2013 18:48:43 GMT Karma said:

,i mean they could be mixing this stuff in a rat infested shed for all we know and i do think this needs to be regulated even if its just basic food and hygiene certification.

I have a basic food hygiene certificate, that doesn't entitle me to cook anything in my own kitchen to take to work as my kitchen hasn't been passed by the local authority

Same here, I also hold the certificate and dabble in mixing my own juice but I would never even think of selling, the responsibility is huge, a simple distraction when mixing can cause havoc, the ingredients are unknown, the cleanliness is unseen, the last thing I would want is the debris under ones fingernails around my bottle or a scratch here or there and some uncared for human offerings finding its way around my juice eighth ???

[madwill]

And that was exacly my point there are no hygiene regs at all as far as i know for mixing and selling,
Anything is better than nothing, and something will eventually have to be done before some scrub makes someone ill with a dirty or bad mix.

[Sandra (aka Chillax)]

There are these www.ecita.org.uk/

[madwill]

Jan 29, 2013 19:34:31 GMT Sandra (aka Chillax) said:

There are these www.ecita.org.uk/

Is this compulsory or voluntary for liquid sellers ?
Because as far as i can see its not compulsary meaning theres no regulation.

[Karma]

I also wonder about public liability insurance

It really is a big minefield and my worry is, that if the vaping community doesn't put it's own house in order, then Big Brother will! Nobody will benefit from that

Small steps though. all vendors here need to comply with DSRs, so an address and contact must be on their website. If any problems then did arise Trading standards would know exactly where to go! Hope it doesn't come to that!

[skipraider]

let's be honest..... it's a free for all, despite your good efforts.
When it comes to stopping greed...

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Jan 29, 2013 19:04:32 GMT Gordy said:

thats a VERY good point Karma ...i wont buy from any 'homemade' juice vendor .

how do we identify a homemade juice vendor?

[skipraider]

Feb 1, 2013 23:18:34 GMT @ashmal said:

Jan 29, 2013 19:04:32 GMT Gordy said:

thats a VERY good point Karma ...i wont buy from any 'homemade' juice vendor .

how do we identify a homemade juice vendor?

You look at their contact details, go to street view and see what the premises look like for a start

[Deleted]

google maps doesn't show the interior though ... :-)

[skipraider]

Feb 1, 2013 23:24:49 GMT @ashmal said:

google maps doesn't show the interior though ... :-)

Very good, anything constructive?

[Deleted]

Point is, it is a question of some form of standards or regulation. I would not be able to identify which vendor has poor standards and which one has good standards. I know which juice I like but I know as little about UK Vendor quality control for mixing and hygiene as I do of the Chinese vendors. In fact the only vendor I can recall from memory who does mention quality control is cloud9vaping and that is taken in faith ... there might be others