A new ECCA forum rep needed!

[Blownupdolly]

I know no one else appears to have come forward, but I am happy for womble to do it.

This is in no way aimed at womble as I agree with him most of the time anyway, but I have always wondered when someone represents a large amount of people, how they deal with it if they are asked to represent a subject if they personally disagree with it but the majority do? Would be very difficult to do I imagine.

[lobeydosser]

Okay, thanks, I get the picture now.

I am reminded of the phrase;-

A Camel is a Horse, designed by a Committee.

[sleepyduck]

I hadn't looked at the ECCA website before. I have now. One suggestion. I think the site should tell us who is behind ECCA. Names and biographies. This may sound a little old-fashioned in 2013, but I wouldn't join an organisation which aimed to represent my interests without knowing who I was dealing with...

[matt1988]

The website is going to have a massive overhaul with lots of new features and articles.

Can I suggest sleepyduck that you raise a ticket to make this suggestion. This would be the best and easiest way to raise concerns or pass on suggestions etc.

You can do that by clicking here: www.eccauk.org/support

[Banky]

May 12, 2013 0:56:08 GMT womble said:

They will vote the new AAEC rep in at the new AGM apparently. But, no, I have no idea.

Speaking for myself here I would be more than happy for you, to be elected for ECCA rep
I also agree it should not be just the ECCA Committee to elect a rep.

I have to agree with you on the point you made, That one person's views could be compromised, We all have personal
views no matter what standing you have in the job one does as a rep

As long as a rep does his job to his upmost capability and the thought as to why he/she has been elected
then I don't see the reason why that rep cant do there job.

You have my vote Womble.

[sleepyduck]

May 12, 2013 18:01:00 GMT matt1988 said:

The website is going to have a massive overhaul with lots of new features and articles.

Can I suggest sleepyduck that you raise a ticket to make this suggestion. This would be the best and easiest way to raise concerns or pass on suggestions etc.

You can do that by clicking here: www.eccauk.org/support

The point is that I would want the organisation to realise that something like that might be important to prospective members without one of those prospective members (i.e. me) having to "raise a ticket". Having had a look at the site, there are lots more suggestions I could make, but whilst I might be interested in joining ECCA, I have no interest in participating in running it.

[matt1988]

Im not asking for you to run it. Im simply pointing you to the best way to raise a suggestion.

And I would happy to hear your suggestions about the site, but can I suggest you wait until the site redesign has happened. As currently everyone on the committee agrees and we are very close to launching it, and I hope you will find the new design fresh, easy to navigate and most importantly shows you what direction ECCA are moving.

What exactly did you want to see about the committee sleepyduck ?

[matt1988]

Double post.

[sleepyduck]

What exactly did you want to see about the committee sleepyduck ?

As I said in my earlier post (third post on this page), I would like to know who was purporting to represent my interests and asking for a donation from me. Names and biographies would be a start. Here's an example of what I mean

casaa.org/Board_of_Directors.html

[matt1988]

Ok I will bring this up at the next meeting.

[lobeydosser]

I have given financial donations to organisations who are supporting the fight against any EU interference in my vaping future, but these organisations have very definite and precise aims and have a convincing CV to back up the work they have done so far.

I don't see anything on the ECCA website that would convince me that they have done anything of importance or that they could make a difference in the future better than all the others that are doing the same thing.

To me there are two ways of fighting the EU and their cockamamie ideas.
You can join an organisation that you know will have the clout to fight the Brussels's Sprouts that want us banned, or you can safeguard your own supplies of e-juice and Mods for whatever time you think would be a safe future.

The way things are going, any of my future "donations" will be used to buy, buy, buy and I may be considered selfish, but to me there are so many organisations all putting in their pennyworth, that the whole argument against Brussels is being watered down to the point where no one is going to listen to anyone.

A point that was well proven in last week's video of the Steering Committee Conference.

[sleepyduck]

May 12, 2013 19:39:52 GMT matt1988 said:

Ok I will bring this up at the next meeting.

But you can't tell me just now? Is it a secret ???

Anyway, I've done my own research in the meantime (it took a while) and discovered that ECCA is a guy callers Chris and another guy called Sam. I still have no idea why I should give them my support or trust them with my money.

[Blownupdolly]

I also had similar thoughts last week about there not being enough unity between all the different organisations and people trying to fight the cause. There seems to be a lot of donation requests, petitions and other requests, flying about all over the place. It would be much better if everyone pulled together to fight the one cause, which would also give us much more clout and be taken seriously.
I understand one is a trade association the other for consumers, but I feel we are being watered down by not having us all fight together as one.

[OneDay]

I think we need to be careful not to lose sight of the point of this thread. A body (ECCA) has been created to try to represent the views of e-cig consumers. That body could become all high and mighty and end up representing only the views of the few souls who make up it's committees and pat itself on the back for attempting to achieve those few individual's goals. Instead, it has decided that it should at least have a conduit into the views of committed e-cig users via this forum and has offered us representation. That is a good thing. Womble has put himself forward as a nominee to represent our views. That is also a good thing. Let's not knock it, we are being offered a chance to have our voices heard.

[matt1988]

sleepyduck you asked for that info to be put up on the website. And I said I will bring up at the meeting. But Sam has stepped down as chair but Chris is still actively sitting as Secretary.

I feel I have explained myself well enough, and answered everything I could. As OneDay says we are drifting majorly off topic. If you feel you want to discuss any othee issues there are several channels to do so. You can either pm me, email me at [e-mail] , raise a ticket or discuss it on ECCAs forum here www.eccauk.org/forum .

But thankyou sleepy for expressing your veiws and letting me know what YOU want to change as ECCA is here for YOU and every other consumer!