effects of vaping around dogs

[Karma]

How old is he now zeldamum ?

What problems are you having?

[Perpetua]

You should find castration helps simmer him down Zelda, the only thing you have to watch with any neutered dog is that they can have a tendency to put on weight more easily after.

Have you any agility classes or similar you could take him to, to help burn off the excess energy?

[zeldamum]

He is 9 mths, according to the behavourist he has extremely strong collie instincts. I know he is still a puppy and some of his behaviour is typical puppy.

He is very reactive to many different things and has bitten my sons because of one of his reactions, he didn't break the asking out leave bruising but next time it could well be a lot worse which scares me. He won't come in when called and everything I have tried works for a week then stops working.

He has 2 training sessions a week, 1 for reactive dogs, 1 for agility. He gets walked everyday and I do basic training at home with him. I want to do more training with him, but all he wants to do is play fetch.

[zeldamum]

Jun 30, 2013 16:04:32 GMT Perpetua said:

You should find castration helps simmer him down Zelda, the only thing you have to watch with any neutered dog is that they can have a tendency to put on a weight more easily after.

Have you any agility classes or similar you could take him to, to help burn off the excess energy?

The vet thinks I will have problems getting him to put on weight as he is so hyper, he also displays a lot of apprehensive behaviour, again under vets advice I got an adaptil plug in diffuser to try and help him settle, only plugged it in yesterday so far to early to see any difference.

Yes to agility and a separate reactive dog class.

[Perpetua]

Jun 30, 2013 16:08:03 GMT zeldamum said:

Jun 30, 2013 16:04:32 GMT Perpetua said:

You should find castration helps simmer him down Zelda, the only thing you have to watch with any neutered dog is that they can have a tendency to put on a weight more easily after.

Have you any agility classes or similar you could take him to, to help burn off the excess energy?

The vet thinks I will have problems getting him to put on weight as he is so hyper, he also displays a lot of apprehensive behaviour, again under vets advice I got an adaptil plug in diffuser to try and help him settle, only plugged it in yesterday so far to early to see any difference.

Yes to agility and a separate reactive dog class.

He certainly sounds like a bundle of nervous energy Zelda . . . a few drops of Bachs Rescue Remedy in his water or on his food might help a little as well. Those plug ins can work very well for some dogs, hope you have success.

[Karma]

I have a 12yr old Border Terrier X Border Collie! He was a blummin nightmare when young

2 things turned him into a lovely dog (well almost lovely, he still thinks he's Rambo if he meets a bigger dog!)

I got him neutered and got a kennel and run built in the garden! He loved his kennel, it was his space, he was safe there when kids were running around screaming and being generally annoying, which used to wind him up! He was never put in the kennel overnight, only when I was out, so no more than 4 hours at a time, and when the house was very busy. He didn't see it as a punishment, he had smelly toys that were only allowed in there etc.

When he was about 2.5, we had to move house and couldn't take the kennel. I was a bit worried, but he was fine, he'd grown up a bit. The only danger he now poses to children is that he would lick them to death

[fiddles]

aw bless why cut the poor little mites go-nads off

As for vets usual excuse , testicular cancer, well you might get it.... shall we castrate you ?

As you can guess i am anti castrating (unless real medical reason) for every dog owner that says it calmed their dog down you can find another that said it made no difference.
My little westie is 5 this november & still has his famiy jewels

[zeldamum]

I hope so Perps if they calm him down just a little I will be a happy bunny. He drinks from a water bucket in the garden or I would use the drops. I would get rid of the bucket, but half the cats in the area use it as well.

I would get him a kennel Karma as he loves it outside and will sleep for ages. However he is so reactive to noises outside that it would be unfair to the neighbours and drive me nuts to leave him out there. My garden has really high walls which he can't see over, all it takes to set him barking and running around like and idiot is noise or a bird. I live very close to a park and a cricket ground. Saturday afternoons are a nightmare when he is outside.

Fiddles, I have never ever intended to breed from him, it always was a question of when to get him done. I am one of those people who will always get an dog or cat done. There are far too many shelters already overflowing down here with 'accidental' litters and kittens and far too many people trying to make money out of their pets. I would have had a rescue dog if the shelter nearest to us didn't keep mucking us around.

[Karma]

I don't suppose 'rescue remedy' would do the cats any harm worth a try!

I did have a really quiet garden when I got Max a kennel He is still very reactive to noise, bonfire night and the lead up to it is a nightmare. I use the Adaptil plug ins, not sure if they really help, but makes me feel that I'm trying to help

He probably will calm down with age. Make sure he knows that you're the boss, it may seem horrid but takes some of the stress from the dog. When max gets wound up I hold him as gently as possible by the scruff and calmly say 'no'.

For years Max was not allowed up on the furniture, not because I care about the hair, but because I needed Max to know that I was the boss and needed to know that the children were safe on the sofas

Does your dog have a quiet place in the house that he knows is his? I don't agree with people caging dogs for long periods of time, but a big enough cage with a blanket over it to shut out stimulation can make an ideal sanctuary for a nervous dog, no need to shut the door on it so long as others respect the dogs space

[jinglebelle]

My two are 'velcro dogs' and are always glued to either me or OH. Doesn't matter what we're doing and the only time they're away from us is when they go to bed at night!

They actually prefer us vaping now as we don't have to disturb them off our knees to go in the garage for a smoke.

[zeldamum]

He has a crate, but he got very possessive over it, so under advice of a behavourist he is only allowed access to it at night. He does have a separate basket to sleep in day and night. Unfortunately we only have 3 rooms downstairs large kitchen/dinner, a large lounge and a utility room where the cats get fed. I think when he has his open I will move his crate into the lounge and keep everyone else out. Really worried as I have been told he could get worse while he is in pain. A blanket over the top is a very good idea, thank you. I am closing my shop for the day so I can prepare for him coming home and to see to his needs.

He very rarely comes on the sofas which I am very pleased about, he is not allowed upstairs that is totally out of bounds.

Glad his behaviour is probably not due to vaping as its the only thing that I seem to do for myself nowadays.

[Perpetua]

You'll likely be given something to ease any discomfort he may have Zelda . . . a friend of mine has just had her collie cross neutered, Smokey has sailed through it. The only thing he had to have was a collar to stop him licking the area.

[djs]

Jun 30, 2013 16:04:57 GMT zeldamum said:

He gets walked everyday and I do basic training at home with him. I want to do more training with him, but all he wants to do is play fetch.

Give it time. I always see my Border Collies as children. If you want them to be expert working dogs, train them as young as possible, like trying to make a tennis prodigy, piano whiz-kid or maths uber-child.

Otherwise, I tire them out, play ball, do some rough and tumble (where they rarely win), play ball, do some obedience, play ball, so some socialising, play ball. After that, I play some ball. Then, after tea and before bed, some ball.

At about 3 years, they slow down. You couldn't work one then, but hell, they can catch.

[Karma]

Jun 30, 2013 21:14:27 GMT djs said:

Jun 30, 2013 16:04:57 GMT zeldamum said:

He gets walked everyday and I do basic training at home with him. I want to do more training with him, but all he wants to do is play fetch.

Give it time. I always see my Border Collies as children. If you want them to be expert working dogs, train them as young as possible, like trying to make a tennis prodigy, piano whiz-kid or maths uber-child.

Otherwise, I tire them out, play ball, do some rough and tumble (where they rarely win), play ball, do some obedience, play ball, so some socialising, play ball. After that, I play some ball. Then, after tea and before bed, some ball.

At about 3 years, they slow down. You couldn't work one then, but hell, they can catch.

My collie cross didn't slow down until he was 10, even now he'll give a young one a run for it's money 

[djs]

Jun 30, 2013 21:17:32 GMT Karma said:

My collie cross didn't slow down until he was 10, even now he'll give a young one a run for it's money 

Yes, all these things are relative.