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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 8, 2013 11:53:10 GMT
Does this sound right, my eldest son just got a Job and the hourly rate he will be getting is £7.60 a hour, that does not include taxes or anything. But the agency who got him the Job said to him the company who you work for pay us your wages @ £7.60 a hour but we take 20% away from that for our fees for getting you the job so you will be getting £6.08 a hour from us Does this sound right, to me it sound like extortion ??? I can understand they need to get something back for getting him the Job but 20%
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Post by Yorkshireman on Aug 8, 2013 11:54:28 GMT
I thought the agency charged the company more than your sons hourly rate and that is how the get there money,not from your son
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Aug 8, 2013 11:55:11 GMT
I thought the agency charged the company more than your sons hourly rate and that is how the get there money,not from your son I thought the same. Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 8, 2013 11:59:09 GMT
Same here Yorkshireman that's what i thought. Just had a word with my son again and it seems he got it wrong He said, the company who he works for pays him his wages (Not the agency) but the agency takes 20% from it for fees etc, so it's pretty much the same as above but the only difference being the wages will be paid from the company he is working for
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Post by fiddles on Aug 8, 2013 12:01:42 GMT
if your son is 21 or above Super-Shiny that is less than minimum wage he will be earning. Like rosco & yorshireman I always thought agency's got paid direct from company and hourly rate was the workers
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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 8, 2013 12:04:27 GMT
if your son is 21 or above Super-Shiny that is less than minimum wage he will be earning. That is what i told him, he must be getting it wrong somewhere along the lines but talking to him i like talking to a brick wall
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Post by fiddles on Aug 8, 2013 12:06:38 GMT
if your son is 21 or above Super-Shiny that is less than minimum wage he will be earning. That is what i told him, he must be getting it wrong somewhere along the lines but talking to him i like talking to a brick wall I got one 18 year old & another nearly 21 so I know what you mean mate
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Post by rich64 on Aug 8, 2013 12:13:26 GMT
I have to deal with agencies alot (catering) and the fees vary dramatically from 5 to 20 % fees and also flat fees per week from some companies .(all companies i deal with charge seperately for their fees although i know a few that pay the way your son describes but we simply avoid dealing with them)
The agency your son has signed up with seem to be trying to get away with a search fee(stating the company hes been sent to pay his wages) , which leaves him wide open to who is going to pay holiday pay accrual?.
As already mentioned the minimium wage needs to be met (are they trying to say hes paid £7.60 which meets min wage but the agency fees are taking his wage just below the minimium if hes over 21?if so it seems very suspect)
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Post by sue1952 on Aug 8, 2013 12:21:39 GMT
I worked for a nursing agency some years ago and what I got told was the hourly rate, that is what I got. Now things could and probably have changed somewhat, but that is disgusting. The poor chap will feel that he is working for next to nothing.
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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 8, 2013 12:24:11 GMT
Gonna have a good word with him when he gets back in, well try to anyway, and get the full in depth details, wages, holidays etc etc and will report back
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Post by Didge on Aug 8, 2013 17:33:12 GMT
Although the arrangement seems somewhat unfair, it's worth mentioning that he stands a much better chance of finding more rewarding employment while he is working, as sadly employers tend to avoid recruiting unemployed candidates.
Additionally many organisations now have a policy of only accepting staff through agencies until such time that they're convinced of an employee's commitment. Permanent contracts and pay rises will usually be offered to the staff they wish to retain, unsuitable staff will be "let go".
I would suggest that he may be better-off by accepting the current situation and continuing to look for better opportunities elsewhere.
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Post by Saturnalia on Aug 8, 2013 20:30:05 GMT
I'm a temp and I'm registered with quite a few agencies, and haven't come across this before. They all charge the company that takes me my quoted hourly rate x hours worked + whatever their fees are, and I'm paid the full amount of hourly rate I was told I'd get ( - tax & NI obviously).
I've heard from much older temps that it used to work that way many years ago, when you got your pay you would have to pay your agent their cut yourself, but it seems it's standard practice now to do it as I described above. Surely it is simpler for the agencies to do it that way too?
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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 8, 2013 21:04:01 GMT
Just found out by his GF he gets 45mins total break throughout the day and will be working 12hrs a day, i am sure that is against the law, need to talk to my son though to get the exact lowdown of it all.
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Aug 9, 2013 5:43:23 GMT
Just found out by his GF he gets 45mins total break throughout the day and will be working 12hrs a day, i am sure that is against the law, need to talk to my son though to get the exact lowdown of it all. As long as you have a half hour break every 6 hours romelee it is legal. Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
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