Epic vapour!

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I'd like to see the unedited version.. where coughs his ring up between tokes.

[Jaguar7777]

Oct 3, 2013 10:33:19 GMT kibbster said:

I'm surprised to find people are so intolerant of someone doing no harm to anyone.
You do realise we are as bad as those we seek to stop if we do half their work for them?

Indeed .....


However, you wouldn't say that if you were sitting somewhere quietly and this idiot marched up to you and blew real cigarette smoke in your face.


Manners maketh the Man ........


Jag. (Not on You Tube ......)

[fiddles]

Oct 3, 2013 10:53:21 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

Oct 3, 2013 10:33:19 GMT kibbster said:

I'm surprised to find people are so intolerant of someone doing no harm to anyone.
You do realise we are as bad as those we seek to stop if we do half their work for them?

Indeed .....


However, you wouldn't say that if you were sitting somewhere quietly and this idiot marched up to you and blew real cigarette smoke in your face.


Manners maketh the Man ........


Jag. (Not on You Tube ......)

Ever heard the saying "pot calling the kettle black "

This man probably in his own home, blowing vapour clouds annoying no one, yet you feel its right to be calling him an idiot & join in the slating of him.

Boy Racer analogies & someone walking up to you blowing real cigarette smoke in your face are very constructive...NOT

I think we have a case here of Vapour Envy

Fiddles (can't see the keyboard through the vapour)

[Jaguar7777]

Oct 3, 2013 11:48:40 GMT fiddles said:

Oct 3, 2013 10:53:21 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

Indeed .....


However, you wouldn't say that if you were sitting somewhere quietly and this idiot marched up to you and blew real cigarette smoke in your face.


Manners maketh the Man ........


Jag. (Not on You Tube ......)

Ever heard the saying "pot calling the kettle black "

This man probably in his own home, blowing vapour clouds annoying no one, yet you feel its right to be calling him an idiot & join in the slating of him.

Boy Racer analogies & someone walking up to you blowing real cigarette smoke in your face are very constructive...NOT

I think we have a case here of Vapour Envy

Fiddles (can't see the keyboard through the vapour)

Ouch!

I'm hurt, and deeply offended.

Of course if you believe that you will believe anything.

You are welcome to your opinion, as am I. You find nothing wrong with his little clip then all well and good.

I still think he's an idiot, and I'm happy to stand by that. It's all about freedom of choice and freedom of speech. Supposedly, that's what democracy is all about. Not sure about Forums though ........

Jag. (Always has his tongue in his cheek ....)

[fiddles]

Oct 3, 2013 11:55:06 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

Ouch!

I'm hurt, and deeply offended.

Of course if you believe that you will believe anything.

You are welcome to your opinion, as am I. You find nothing wrong with his little clip then all well and good.

I still think he's an idiot, and I'm happy to stand by that. It's all about freedom of choice and freedom of speech. Supposedly, that's what democracy is all about. Not sure about Forums though ........

Jag. (Always has his tongue in his cheek ....)

No offence meant, I am just putting a opinion across. I really cannot see what he is doing wrong, yes if he was in public building or cafe etc it wouldn't be appropriate but nor is slipping the missus one but when in comfort of own home its ok ( well more than OK a bloody miracle )
Like you say freedom of choice & I love blowing huge vapour trails

[Jaguar7777]

Oct 3, 2013 12:06:39 GMT fiddles said:

Oct 3, 2013 11:55:06 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

Ouch!

I'm hurt, and deeply offended.

Of course if you believe that you will believe anything.

You are welcome to your opinion, as am I. You find nothing wrong with his little clip then all well and good.

I still think he's an idiot, and I'm happy to stand by that. It's all about freedom of choice and freedom of speech. Supposedly, that's what democracy is all about. Not sure about Forums though ........

Jag. (Always has his tongue in his cheek ....)

No offence meant, I am just putting a opinion across. I really cannot see what he is doing wrong, yes if he was in public building or cafe etc it wouldn't be appropriate but nor is slipping the missus one but when in comfort of own home its ok ( well more than OK a bloody miracle )
Like you say freedom of choice & I love blowing huge vapour trails

Slipping the Missus one??????

Was that in the same clip? If so I must have missed it ...............


Jag. (Wonder if she was awake or asleep ..........)

[Deleted]

Oct 3, 2013 10:03:15 GMT JayJ said:

kibbster I also feel we have to take a stand but I also agree with charon and think lets consider that the anti smoking brigade that see us as just a branch of smoking will watch things like that and start pointing and shaking there heads. I feel with upcoming votes and government high horse decisions we should be saying look what a pleasant non stinky bunch we are.

Just as an example of how we may be potentially seen.

Last week I was at A&E with my daughter quite late at night and decided to step outside for a vape. I was using my zmax but not producing huge clouds. Now I didn't see anyone approaching and I'd just exhaled and as we know the vape cloud outside dissipates quite quickly in comparison to tobacco smoke. Anyways a woman in her 30's ish walked past me covered her face with a jacket scowled tutted and shook her head like I had a disease I was desperate to give her.

Now she could hardly miss it wasn't a stinky, a zmax in long mode but her opinion was obviosly he's exhaling something , DANGER DANGER PANIC I'M GOING TO DIE BEFORE I GET HOME !! I felt she saw what I exhaled as dangerous.

I think the point charon is trying to make is theres lots of people out there that are not fully aware of the facts so lets not give them any excuse to start there ramblings.

If the vote gos our way thats a different story. Lets all gather and make a mushroom cloud the likes of never seen before

JayJ I know that you were otherwise engaged with concern for your daughter but this is the sort of person who needs to be educated by simply pointing out that there was no need for her panic and explaining quickly and simply the difference between smoking and vaping. We as a community all need to be part of the battle to win hearts and minds in whichever way we are capable ...  some, like kibbster , are eloquent speakers and able to formulate arguments and strategies while others, myself included, must play the lesser roles but we must all help where we can.

BTW: I hope the little girl is OK now.

[kibbster]

Oct 3, 2013 10:53:21 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

Oct 3, 2013 10:33:19 GMT kibbster said:

I'm surprised to find people are so intolerant of someone doing no harm to anyone.
You do realise we are as bad as those we seek to stop if we do half their work for them?

Indeed .....


However, you wouldn't say that if you were sitting somewhere quietly and this idiot marched up to you and blew real cigarette smoke in your face.


Manners maketh the Man ........


Jag. (Not on You Tube ......)

If anyone blew real smoke or vapour in my face I would be less than impressed, because it's rude.

In the guys defense he's sat in his own lounge and not really hassling anyone let alone blowing smoke in anyones face apart from his own.

[kibbster]

Just as some people are impressed by a skater doing some crazy tricks or someone throwing themselves off a cliff in a squirrel suit, I guess there will always be those that cross their arms under their bosom and tut disapprovingly.
I'm a believer in Live and let live, if it doesn't hurt me or others I don't care what anyone does.
I do like people who go the extra mile though in everything, including vapour generation - it's the 10 year old in me trying to get out

[g3mma]

If vapers disapprove of others vapers what bloody chance have we got!

[JayJ]

Oct 3, 2013 12:57:12 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

 

BTW: I hope the little girl is OK now.

Little girl.... She's 19 and a pain in the flippin ar5e, soon to be explained in a rant on here I imagine. Thank you for your concern 

[Deleted]

Oct 3, 2013 15:08:10 GMT JayJ said:

Oct 3, 2013 12:57:12 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

 

BTW: I hope the little girl is OK now.

Little girl.... She's 19 and a pain in the flippin ar5e, soon to be explained in a rant on here I imagine. Thank you for your concern 

JayJ   She will always be your little girl whether she is 9, 19 or 59  ...  in fact she will still be looking up to you and seeking your advice/help no matter what age she is .. being a dad never gets any easier! 

[JayJ]

Oct 3, 2013 15:15:56 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Oct 3, 2013 15:08:10 GMT JayJ said:

Little girl.... She's 19 and a pain in the flippin ar5e, soon to be explained in a rant on here I imagine. Thank you for your concern 

JayJ   She will always be your little girl whether she is 9, 19 or 59  ...  in fact she will still be looking up to you and seeking your advice/help no matter what age she is .. being a dad never gets any easier! 

I'm pretty lucky really my kids come to me with anything. My daughters 19 now and my son is 18 years old and I've brought them up myself since they were 3 and 4 years old so we have to be a tight bunch.

But at risk of hijacking ...... there again that might be a good idea lol.

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Oct 3, 2013 15:22:10 GMT JayJ said:

Oct 3, 2013 15:15:56 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

JayJ   She will always be your little girl whether she is 9, 19 or 59  ...  in fact she will still be looking up to you and seeking your advice/help no matter what age she is .. being a dad never gets any easier! 

I'm pretty lucky really my kids come to me with anything. My daughters 19 now and my son is 18 years old and I've brought them up myself since they were 3 and 4 years old so we have to be a tight bunch.

But at risk of hijacking ...... there again that might be a good idea lol.

Awesome ...  Good for you mate! ... and I'm sure Kibbster wont mind you hijacking his thread to tell us this 

[kibbster]

Oct 3, 2013 15:30:59 GMT @freefromsmoking said:

Oct 3, 2013 15:22:10 GMT JayJ said:

I'm pretty lucky really my kids come to me with anything. My daughters 19 now and my son is 18 years old and I've brought them up myself since they were 3 and 4 years old so we have to be a tight bunch.

But at risk of hijacking ...... there again that might be a good idea lol.

Awesome ...  Good for you mate! ... and I'm sure Kibbster wont mind you hijacking his thread to tell us this 

Nope of course not
I'm a Dad of two myself (although both young boys)