Updates on Plenary

[barrynorton]

Oct 8, 2013 14:00:53 GMT stamina said:

Would pulling out the E.U jeopardise todays decision if we ever get round to having a referendum on the E.U. The 3 main parties want to stay in but if we did decide to pull out, I fear that the Government will have the last say of the matter.

It would. But see also above. In general, an EU directive compels legislation on member states, it does not prohibit it; i.e. the UK, whether in or out of the EU, can still introduce its own legislation... but there are restrictions on this due to free trade (what the EU was originally meant to protect, and which is our friend here).

Tl;dr: do not vote UKIP!

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

I have just had a chat with my Nicotine Supplier (for clarity, they are the biggest pharmaceutical manufacturer of Nicotine in the UK, and have been involved in government talks on this subject)....

They (although still digesting the available information), are of the opinion that "Business to Business" sales of nicotine at levels lower than the prescribed poisons licence limit (currently 75mg/ml) will carry on.

As for end users/customers (end sales, i.e. Business to user) will be controlled at 30mg/ml max level....

This is were the detail of the regulation will come in (in time) but it would be reasonable to suspect it will require business to demonstrate compliance and maybe being on a list of "veted" or licenced business, the final regulating detail of the "however and whatever" will need to be decided on, by whatever regulating authority is responsible.

I think it may (again in time) restrict the DIY market, and also smaller businesses and vendors who mix themselves and currently operate without the appropriate H&S, cleanrooms, quality controls, insurances, etc, etc.

But, time will tell.... it may all change in the blink of an eye.... so we need to keep fighting.

[barrynorton]

Thought so. As I say, my freezer's going to be stocked up, come the day.

[smoketastic]

This is awesome news for us electronic cigarette smokers, but the big question is what happens now? SmokeTastic have put it simply with their Link removed by Chrissie blog post.

[GunJack]

From the press release:-

"Manufacturers and importers would also have to supply the competent authorities with a list of all the ingredients that they contain."

Frogster (The Alchemist) what's your take on this ??

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Oct 8, 2013 14:19:30 GMT GunJack said:

From the press release:-

"Manufacturers and importers would also have to supply the competent authorities with a list of all the ingredients that they contain."

Frogster (The Alchemist) what's your take on this ??

I don't have a problem with that, good practice ensuring quality and H&S controls. But, once again it will be in the detail of the regulation I think..... I am like most people here, an everyday guy, not a MP, Barrister, Legal Wiz, etc.

We will not get the answers we want straight away. We will have to wait for round2, then 3, then..... and so on!

[jakethevape]

Just heads up guys. I have linked this forum on the BBC Have Your Say comment section.

Looks like we may have an influx of lurkers and HOPEFULLY new members!

[dave]

Forgot this was happening today, so very pleased to see that sanity has prevailed for now. Next step is the council of ministers, so if I understand it right the war isn't quite won yet!

[kibbster]

Oct 8, 2013 14:25:47 GMT jakethevape said:

Just heads up guys. I have linked this forum on the BBC Have Your Say comment section.

Looks like we may have an influx of lurkers and HOPEFULLY new members!

Spread the word.
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[Chrissie]

I'm with OneDay on this - to me it is indeed a victory

And I'll be celebrating tonight

[Chrissie]

Oct 8, 2013 14:15:34 GMT smoketastic said:

This is awesome news for us electronic cigarette smokers, but the big question is what happens now? SmokeTastic have put it simply with their Link removed by Chrissie blog post.

I've removed the link to your website as you are so obviously affiliated to several of the over priced ciggie-lookalike vendors. So it's hello & goodbye to you smoketastic

[Deleted]

I'm celebrating and telling the planet...we expected so much worse and like the odds were stacked against us

Praise God

[barrynorton]

Today's victory for proper vapers is an even bigger victory for the cig-a-like profiteers

[kibbster]

velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/tobacco-products-directive-jury-is-in.html

Chris Snowdon Blog piece.

[Gary Horder]

three years to convert every smoker to vaping ... easy done