How can I help someone keep vaping who doesn't like it?

[boyofford]

My mates brother started vaping 2 weeks ago after I'd been going on about it to my mate and been making stopping smoking look easy with vaping.

I point my mate to myepack site and recommended starter kit I'd got for his brother(which was recommended of here) buthis brother couldn't be arsed with internet shopping and got something local.
He also bought his juice local rather than getting stuff recommended of internet/forums(I started this way but quickly got stuff online which was better and cheaper).

Anyhow, he was getting lot of dry throat, something I got a lot too a start, recommended lots of water and said it would pass.
Also got sore throat, again I got this at start so said to just bare with it.

Just asked mate today and turns out his brother is back to cigs

Thinking I will give him some of my Joosejuice juices which are 60:40 which might help with the sore throat?
He ain't got good access to internet so telling him to order on-line will only work properly if he orders through my mate.

Feel like I've failed somehow! don't get why he doesn't like it!

AND the more people I can convert, the more people are about to convert others and increase the vaping numbers until they(the government) can not ban vaping for fear of not getting re-elected!!

Anyhow, ideas?

[silentscream]

You've done what you can. If he liked it from the start you wouldn't have to 'do' anything beyond that. He probably isn't ready to quit cigs. Leave him to it.

If he decided later to take another look at e cigs you will be the one he talks to. Until then, don't sweat it. You can sometimes turn people right off it by trying to convince them it's what they want or need.

[boyofford]

Nov 30, 2013 0:17:56 GMT silentscream said:

You've done what you can. If he liked it from the start you wouldn't have to 'do' anything beyond that. He probably isn't ready to quit cigs. Leave him to it.

If he decided later to take another look at e cigs you will be the one he talks to. Until then, don't sweat it. You can sometimes turn people right off it by trying to convince them it's what they want or need.

Its a shame as the reasons he has given up are all things I had a start(poor equipment/side effects of quiting/adjusting to vaping) but due to this forum I've overcome them or just waited a bit till body adjusted.
He did stop for 2 weeks in 'stoptober' (did better than me, I lasted two days!) but by all accounts his Mrs is a hardcore smoker who was bullying him back into smoking.
I'll give him some juices I ain't gona use and forget about it I think. 

[xs2man]

Well, you have done what you can. It's not for everyone.

I bought my mum a couple VV Batteries and gave her a few evods and some nice juice to get her started. She simply has no interest in giving up smoking, so I doubt if any of it has seen any use. And it's not like she can even afford to keep up with the smoking.

When he's ready, he'll come back. Until then, I would forget about it.

[fagin]

We all seem to get a bit obsessive about converting people sometimes. Kind of like the jehovahs witnesses of nicotine.
I've started quite a few people, but I think all of them have gone back to cigs (totally or partially), mainly because of the faffing about.
They don't want to fill, coil, and buy shiny stuff. They just want to pop into a shop and get a simple nic fix.

If cig a likes were any good they'd work miracles, but they don't and to get a decent vape you have to faff.

[boyofford]

Nov 30, 2013 1:02:38 GMT fagin said:

We all seem to get a bit obsessive about converting people sometimes. Kind of like the jehovahs witnesses of nicotine.
I've started quite a few people, but I think all of them have gone back to cigs (totally or partially), mainly because of the faffing about.
They don't want to fill, coil, and buy shiny stuff. They just want to pop into a shop and get a simple nic fix.

If cig a likes were any good they'd work miracles, but they don't and to get a decent vape you have to faff.

Suppose I agree with bold, after all I threw first stuff I bought in bin after 4/5days!
You do need to do reading and get kit that can by maintained properly.
And I've learnt that juice from local shops is just naff! If didn't look on internet for better juice I would of got sick of it.

I love my protanks but for a newby the coils change frequency would put off some.
Time will tell but did read somewhere that the iclear16s (I bought some of them too) will last longer between changes, maybe they would be better for newbys?

The footer thing I've got on this forum has really put in perspective my vape vs cigs spend.... everytime I order something vape related I just check my signature and it then seems ok type my paypal details in!
Still most of spend is just initial outlay and will last me.

Another mate of a mate has been vaping less time than me and has already progressed to big shiny mods! I'm trying to resist this.

[boyofford]

Nov 30, 2013 1:02:38 GMT fagin said:

 Kind of like the jehovahs witnesses of nicotine.

[silentscream]

Nov 30, 2013 1:02:38 GMT fagin said:

We all seem to get a bit obsessive about converting people sometimes. Kind of like the jehovahs witnesses of nicotine.
I've started quite a few people, but I think all of them have gone back to cigs (totally or partially), mainly because of the faffing about.
They don't want to fill, coil, and buy shiny stuff. They just want to pop into a shop and get a simple nic fix.

If cig a likes were any good they'd work miracles, but they don't and to get a decent vape you have to faff.

That's so true. Even now I make comments on forums and people tell me well make better wicks and learn to recoil I couldn't give a f*** about any of that. New heads I can get for six quid which last me a month.

But I was ready to quit cigs when I started vaping and have had no inclination at all to have a cig since. When people are ready they'll do it. Forcing it on them will make them hate the very idea of it.

[boyofford]

Nov 30, 2013 1:17:14 GMT silentscream said:

Nov 30, 2013 1:02:38 GMT fagin said:

We all seem to get a bit obsessive about converting people sometimes. Kind of like the jehovahs witnesses of nicotine.
I've started quite a few people, but I think all of them have gone back to cigs (totally or partially), mainly because of the faffing about.
They don't want to fill, coil, and buy shiny stuff. They just want to pop into a shop and get a simple nic fix.

If cig a likes were any good they'd work miracles, but they don't and to get a decent vape you have to faff.

That's so true. Even now I make comments on forums and people tell me well make better wicks and learn to recoil I couldn't give a f*** about any of that. New heads I can get for six quid which last me a month.

But I was ready to quit cigs when I started vaping and have had no inclination at all to have a cig since. When people are ready they'll do it. Forcing it on them will make them hate the very idea of it.

Didn't force it in him just think he has had bad initial experiences but not realised it would pass.... Though my mate(his brother) may have been 'forcing' it on him without knowing all facts, I dunno.

I'm with you on coiling, at least for now, I'm keeping spent coils for now in case I change my mind.

Coiling plus mixing your own juice may make it cheaper, but vaping is already cheap when compared to smoking.

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[Perpetua]

Maybe it's just not the right time for him boyofford . . . you've still got to want to give ecigs a proper chance, more than you want to smoke. If his initial experience hasn't been brilliant then it's easy enough to convince yourself that it isn't for you.

I don't believe anyone should feel that they have ' failed ' in some way.

[ginge7289]

I tried vaping 3 years ago and I thought it was rubbish, this year I decided enough was enough and gave a vaping a real try.

Moral of the story, if you want it enough you will make it work. If not you will keep doing what you know.