why do b&m shops hide recoiling

[decoy]

is it because they what to make the most dollar outa you
now on this point i will allways have the odd recreational ciggy take from that what you wish 
but do they hide the fact that you can get a much better vape building your own heads from you on purpose so they can get as much money from you as poss
orrr is it that you should only use genuine heads to get the best possible vape from said tank
i only ask this after enjay and supper shiney  have had there wicked way with me and am now using a pro tank 3 with duel parallel coil and air flow controller drilled out to 1.5 mm and its lush(kayfun is still better but not buy much)
or am i just being paranoid 

[hijack]

Its money.. of coarse it is. Not just on the factory coils but the lost sales due to people not buying new tanks to try and get a better vape.

People (including me) walk in and say '' im fed up with these kanger coils, they leak, gurgle and flood all the time.''
So what do they say?
''Try this aspire they are better than the kanger tanks'' and ''Oh, your going to need some new coils to use with that''
I cant blame them, they are trying to run a business and we are their customers.

[decoy]

ok my local shop didnt hide it they said have a look at guides
peps on here do buy there mixing stuffs from them
i get my juice form them cause i cba mixing
they are not a liked shop on here
but they were honist with me but the likes of a large v well know chain or 2 will never tell you about recoiling your own heads and one of them ripped my mummy off lol dont worrie i got her happy now
i just dont understand why or how these places keep going when there main intention is to get as much off you as poss
im glad i dont own a vape shop

[Perpetua]

As well as the financial aspect . . . I guess a lot of the customers who do visit B&M stores, are either new to vaping or in the early stages.

Keeping our hobby as simple as possible at first, is possibly a better way of not putting a smoker off?

[decoy]

Jun 9, 2014 6:30:23 GMT Perpetua said:

As well as the financial aspect . . . I guess a lot of the customers who do visit B&M stores, are either new to vaping or in the early stages.

Keeping our hobby as simple as possible at first, is possibly a better way of not putting a smoker off?

true you have my mum that went to tw and got her pockets emptied but she was sorta happy with some cig a like
it leeked a lot and just about did what it was supposed to
got her 2 evods tanks and 2 ego type batts and she is so much happier
recoild them and now she wont sodding leave me alone lol
just cant understand why they dont want to give there customer best service ie exsperiance so they will give up the sinkys
idd be bust after a week of running a vape shop 

[xrayspecs]

I'd say it's simply because most people wouldn't even be interested in making their own coils. They just want something off the shelf with no hassle.
I know people who vape ego kits and the only interest they have in my gear is to take the piss. Microcoiling, resistances etc or £2 for a replacement head? Most people would go for the latter.

[hijack]

Jun 9, 2014 6:30:23 GMT Perpetua said:

As well as the financial aspect . . . I guess a lot of the customers who do visit B&M stores, are either new to vaping or in the early stages.

Keeping our hobby as simple as possible at first, is possibly a better way of not putting a smoker off?

That's very true, the b&m was the first place I went to when deciding to try vaping to quit the stinkys. They set me up with an easy to use starter kit that got me off the stinkys completely.

Keeping it simple is always the best advice when starting out.

It was only after visiting places like this, that my interest started to grow into an obsession.  Now I may be a lost cause.  

[VE Jason]

It's because, in the hands of the inexperienced, we would just be sending batteries to the slaughter

When recoiling first become prominent we had dozens of batteries returned that had 'just died' after someone had stuck their new fancy RDA on the top without a clue of what coil they had just wrapped or whether it was shorting.

Since then, if anyone comes in the shop for wick/wire, we check to make sure they know what a multi-meter is and how to test first.

Failing that - we make sure they are using another vendors battery

[andy01424]

On the upside, some would rather buy there coils even if there what some may say an Advanced user simple less hassle,like 30s 5 coils anywhere between £8-£10,takes you 2months to use them for expmple people look at well thats a fiver a month,you spent that more in a day on 20 fags,hence why most stay to these atties.....

Then you have the kayfun etc,some of the otheres prefer to make there own coils/wicks and are happy to do so,...


like me i happily coil wick the Term C and others,but for the fiddly ways of doing the 30s i would rather spend on premade,end of day i have saved more quitting analouges in a month ,than i would spend on spares....well thats way i look at it lol

[Super-Shiny]

Jun 9, 2014 7:45:30 GMT VE Jason said:

Failing that - we make sure they are using another vendors battery

[zeldamum]

Jun 9, 2014 7:45:30 GMT VE Jason said:

Failing that - we make sure they are using another vendors battery

Bet they still turn to you VE Jason when another vendors battery or attie goes wrong. I have only been open for 5 weeks and already picking up the pieces from other shops in the area when their customers atties leak or when they want to know how a device works.

I am always willing to help where I can, even to the point of spending literally hours talking a customer through how to use and look after devices and atties only to find out they went somewhere else to buy.

[ronaldo]

Jun 9, 2014 8:16:36 GMT zeldamum said:

Jun 9, 2014 7:45:30 GMT VE Jason said:

Failing that - we make sure they are using another vendors battery

Bet they still turn to you VE Jason when another vendors battery or attie goes wrong. I have only been open for 5 weeks and already picking up the pieces from other shops in the area when their customers atties leak or when they want to know how a device works.

I am always willing to help where I can, even to the point of spending literally hours talking a customer through how to use and look after devices and atties only to find out they went somewhere else to buy.

but with all the good advise and coffee I am sure they will return and buy something one day or tell some one about the good advise that they got from your shop and they will buy something

so its like putting something in the bank it will return with interest

[zeldamum]

Jun 9, 2014 8:49:46 GMT ronaldo said:

Jun 9, 2014 8:16:36 GMT zeldamum said:

Bet they still turn to you VE Jason when another vendors battery or attie goes wrong. I have only been open for 5 weeks and already picking up the pieces from other shops in the area when their customers atties leak or when they want to know how a device works.

I am always willing to help where I can, even to the point of spending literally hours talking a customer through how to use and look after devices and atties only to find out they went somewhere else to buy.

but with all the good advise and coffee I am sure they will return and buy something one day or tell some one about the good advise that they got from your shop and they will buy something

so its like putting something in the bank it will return with interest

Sounds like I am moaning, I'm not, I enjoy helping people, I am sure I'm not the only shop it happens to. I get it with the fancy dress I sell as well, but much worse they then come back and complain about the quality of the cheap copy they bought online, biting my tongue has become second nature.

More often than not ronaldo they do come back

[ronaldo]

I have never ever seen or heard you moan (even though you are a woman) you are the most helpful person I have ever spoken to ever
and good luck with your shop

[zeldamum]

Jun 9, 2014 9:02:13 GMT ronaldo said:

I have never ever seen or heard you moan (even though you are a woman) you are the most helpful person I have ever spoken to ever
and good luck with your shop

I am a typical woman, I love a good moan, but also like to be very helpful, there is a time and place for moaning.

Thank you.