EU TPD regs started already - only 10ml bottles juice

[rojeans]

IMO possibly, another reason for 10ml bottles is postage costs. It cost a lot less to post something that fits through the letter box (30 ml won't) That is certainly why some other vendors now only do 10ml..fact

[geordie_vaper]

but you can get the slim bottles that are wider

[sej016]

I believe this Company is pre-empting any possible outcome/implementation of the TPD as a cynical sales ploy to increase profit margins and they will never get any of my business.

They should/can continue to sell 30ml (or higher) until such time as the Directive is implemented. They are nothing but sharks.

[djs]

Jun 26, 2014 13:13:10 GMT sej016 said:

I believe this Company is pre-empting any possible outcome/implementation of the TPD as a cynical sales ploy to increase profit margins and they will never get any of my business.

They should/can continue to sell 30ml (or higher) until such time as the Directive is implemented. They are nothing but sharks.

Well said.

When I took issue with them on UKV about some of their marketing, they ran off like big greedy babies and had their profile deleted.

I know they got toots and many others off the smokes, but it's just greedy behavior that vapers need to stamp on, otherwise it will get into the general perception that what they say (and charge) is the truth.

[toots]

Jun 26, 2014 15:51:49 GMT djs said:

Jun 26, 2014 13:13:10 GMT sej016 said:

I believe this Company is pre-empting any possible outcome/implementation of the TPD as a cynical sales ploy to increase profit margins and they will never get any of my business.

They should/can continue to sell 30ml (or higher) until such time as the Directive is implemented. They are nothing but sharks.

Well said.

When I took issue with them on UKV about some of their marketing, they ran off like big greedy babies and had their profile deleted.

I know they got toots and many others off the smokes, but it's just greedy behavior that vapers need to stamp on, otherwise it will get into the general perception that what they say (and charge) is the truth.

What was all that about then djs. I know you've had some sort of issue with them by other posts you've written but I don't know what your problem is with them.

I found them to be ok when I was buying from them (ages ago now) although I did find out that their kits were rather more expensive than a lot of others once I'd signed up here.

[djs]

Jun 26, 2014 16:18:07 GMT toots said:

What was all that about then djs. I know you've had some sort of issue with them by other posts you've written but I don't know what your problem is with them.

It goes back a long way. Like some other brands on the market (including ibreathe and ibaccy), they also sell wholesale to retailers (shops, stalls etc.).
That's where more of my annoyance comes in. I don't know how it all works, but by the time people are buying the products, they are not only expensive, but also come with an insulting amount of BS which I guess can only comes from the "top".

I met a chap on my high street. He was being sold £9 batteries for £22.99. He was paying £8.99 for CE4s. £7 for liquid.

I met the shop owner, and we had a chat (that bit cannot be printed)... and he'd been sold a lemon just as bad as the end user. I used my phone to show him the cost of stuff (on the internet) and he conceded not only had he been taken for a fool and then treated his customers as such as well.

He's not selling their stuff anymore. I feel bad about the whole incident.

I made it clear on UKV that coming on forums and "pretending" that they are some sort of premium product (to charge too much) was just an embarrassment. I don't believe they stayed around long after that. I wasn't the only one to put in the knife.

Oh... and the exploding e-cig story didn't make me happy either. (wrong charger, same brand... not explained to a newbie).

[sej016]

Unfortunately, there are many like them around - who prey on the new unknowing and ill-informed would-be vapers.

We need to name and shame them, but that message will probably not get to the new vaper - but they will realise eventually.