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Post by Bluefish on Jun 30, 2014 17:06:45 GMT
Opinions eh? I've always used .2 in the spheroid, mainly cos that's what i've always used Guess I need to order some more wire Lol Will try the .32 should be ok for micro, only ordered a small reel cos even if changed as often as I change the Spheroid coil which isn't that often it would be enough for a year or two and micro coils don't need changing that often due to changing just the wick, so hopefully I can meet up with decoy sometime and have a look at this .50 Mini meet sometime mate?
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Post by Greg on Jun 30, 2014 17:14:04 GMT
Because it's too flimsy so microcoils aren't very robust especially if you rewick every couple of days and the the resistance is too high unless your dual coiling but if it works for you crack on. It's also far easier to wrap with a micrcoil with thicker rather than thinner kanthal. It may have it uses for some but it's less than ideal for someone just starting out with microcoils which I believe the OP to be or he wouldn't be asking the question Tease-smiley Greg.. I'm not having a pop here, but this is opinion dressed up as fact. The resistance of 0.2mm is not "too high", it is exactly what it's supposed to be. (Which will either suit you or not, depending on what you are building - as you point out, it's pretty useful for dual coils esp. on vv/vw mods). Neither is 0.2mm "too flimsy", it's not hard to build a microcoil with 0.2mm (if I can do it, anyone can!). Yes, it is probably easier with 0.3+, but surely the resistance is the more important thing here? Cheers. Oh I agree my friend it's definitely my opinion but I'm not for a minute suggesting it's fact, just trying to help a new microcoiler get off to the best start and in my view he wouldn't do that with 0.2. but it's all subjective and he can take all suggestions and give both a whirl
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Post by decoy on Jul 1, 2014 18:01:32 GMT
Opinions eh? I've always used .2 in the spheroid, mainly cos that's what i've always used Guess I need to order some more wire Lol Will try the .32 should be ok for micro, only ordered a small reel cos even if changed as often as I change the Spheroid coil which isn't that often it would be enough for a year or two and micro coils don't need changing that often due to changing just the wick, so hopefully I can meet up with decoy sometime and have a look at this .50 Mini meet sometime mate? sure the .5 is like working with fence wire lol i works nights and it would have to be on my 3 days off(3 on 3 off i love it not) the .5 is only really good for sub ohm dripping tbh but its lush i tend to use .25 and .3 for micro coiling the kayfun,s
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Post by Bluefish on Jul 1, 2014 19:39:03 GMT
decoy giz a shout when you are off sometime, can either meet mine, your's or pub, my wire arrived today so ready to go, tbh wouldn't mind trying this sub ohming lark, even if it's to find it's not for me mate.
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Post by Super-Shiny on Jul 1, 2014 19:43:09 GMT
Bluefish0.25, 0.27 are good for small areas and heat up quickly and cool down quickly 0.3, 0.32 are good for large areas and heat up slowly and cool down slowly EDIT: 0.25 is my fave all rounder.
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Post by decoy on Jul 1, 2014 19:59:16 GMT
decoy giz a shout when you are off sometime, can either meet mine, your's or pub, my wire arrived today so ready to go, tbh wouldn't mind trying this sub ohming lark, even if it's to find it's not for me mate. can just see it now sat in the Rodney doing some coils and next thing we know surrounded by the bomb squad for low sub ohming you need some ruddy good batts and preff a nemi or bottom firing mod and a dripper i tend to run my kayfuns about .6/.8 of an ohm on parallel coils im hoping to be home tomorrow afternoon so should be able to meet up tomorrow night if yer want
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Post by Bluefish on Jul 1, 2014 20:04:29 GMT
Ok got that Super-Shiny I think I have some .25 here, well it doesn't say what it is on the spool but it's thicker than .20 lol
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Post by csmith10 on Jul 1, 2014 20:27:13 GMT
Because it's too flimsy so microcoils aren't very robust especially if you rewick every couple of days and the the resistance is too high unless your dual coiling but if it works for you crack on. It's also far easier to wrap with a micrcoil with thicker rather than thinner kanthal. It may have it uses for some but it's less than ideal for someone just starting out with microcoils which I believe the OP to be or he wouldn't be asking the question Tease-smiley Greg.. I'm not having a pop here, but this is opinion dressed up as fact. The resistance of 0.2mm is not "too high", it is exactly what it's supposed to be. (Which will either suit you or not, depending on what you are building - as you point out, it's pretty useful for dual coils esp. on vv/vw mods). Neither is 0.2mm "too flimsy", it's not hard to build a microcoil with 0.2mm (if I can do it, anyone can!). Yes, it is probably easier with 0.3+, but surely the resistance is the more important thing here? Cheers. 0.2 kanthal is simply less suitable for micro coils. When you consider most people wrap single micros for heads such as kanger or RBA like kayfuns. Yes 0.2 will work ok for a dual coil but 0.25 or 0.30 will give you more wraps for a given resistance meaning more wick coverage, more vapour and better flavour. 0.25/0.30 will also be more durable meaning coils will last longer. The only real drawbacks with using thicker wire is if head space is a problem and it takes longer to heat up so batteries such as eGo's, spinners etc can struggle a bit.
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Post by Bluefish on Jul 1, 2014 20:31:44 GMT
Got the mod and dripper just need batteries decoy, Just made my first .32 micro coil for my dripper, working ok
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Post by decoy on Jul 1, 2014 20:42:27 GMT
there really isnt that much to coiling drippers just time,patents,a few tools and someone to egg you on(enjay im my case) currently running this in my dripper at the moe was a bit of a bugger but wow it works
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