ACTA: The new threat to the net

[flimflam]

Hi All,

Not e-cig related and wasn't sure whether to post this here, but figured it's important so what the hell.

Please take a look at this and get behind it if you're so inclined:
www.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_spread/?copy

Can't see why it would, but if it gets up anyones nose I apologise in advance.

Cheers for now,
John

[domesticextremist]

Not getting up my nose - this is worse than SOPA/PIPA and
yet has been given hardly any attention/
Apparently the EU signed up to this last week...

[womble]

I've honestly tried to read the Wikipeadia page about it, but I still don't get it. It's massive and very confusing.

What exactly is the problem?

[Chrissie]

Is this the same thing that Wiki did a 24 hour blackout for a couple of weeks ago?

[jerryrm]

It sounds like the same thing that they tried to pass over here. There was so much opposition to it, that the politicians decided to shelve it............................for now.

[domesticextremist]

No it#s a different thing, but with the same effect.
Worse still, it's pan-national.

[flimflam]

Feb 1, 2012 21:38:12 GMT Chrissie said:

Is this the same thing that Wiki did a 24 hour blackout for a couple of weeks ago?

Hi Chrissie,

It's similar, but like Dom says, it's worse in that it's not just US based. However the organisation I've linked to was involved in helping get the US legislation shelved, and now also hopefully will help kick the EU guff into touch also.

John

[flimflam]

Feb 1, 2012 21:34:53 GMT womble said:

I've honestly tried to read the Wikipeadia page about it, but I still don't get it. It's massive and very confusing.

What exactly is the problem?

Hi Womble,

Essentially it's attempting to stop legislation that would enable a select group of rich corporations and governments to in effect 'censor' the internet. Supposedly to counter piracy and fraud, but casting such a wide net that it will inevitably impact free speech and democratic freedoms imo.

There's a huge stink about it, and rightly so imo.

Cheers,
John

[Chrissie]

Thanks Dom & John

I'll read up on it in detail tomorrow & try & get behind it.

[flimflam]

Feb 1, 2012 22:30:28 GMT Chrissie said:

Thanks Dom & John

I'll read up on it in detail tomorrow & try & get behind it.

Thanks Chrissie

More info here for anyone interested:

If You Thought SOPA Was Bad, Just Wait Until You Meet ACTA
www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/23/if-you-thought-sopa-was-bad-just-wait-until-you-meet-acta/

ACTA vs. SOPA: Five Reasons ACTA is Scarier Threat to Internet Freedom
www.ibtimes.com/articles/286925/20120124/acta-sopa-reasons-scarier-threat-internet-freedom.htm?cid=2

What's Wrong With ACTA
www.edri.org/edrigram/number10.1/whats-wrong-with-ACTA

The secret treaty: Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) and Its Impact on Access to Medicines
www.msfaccess.org/content/secret-treaty-anti-counterfeiting-trade-agreement-acta-and-its-impact-access-medicines

John

[domesticextremist]

Executive summary

[Jemima]

Voted

Sad day

Not saying I'm for piracy but it shouldn't be handled like this ...

[domesticextremist]

Indeed, I've already lost too much personal freedom in the War on Terror.

[womble]

Feb 1, 2012 22:26:23 GMT flimflam said:

Feb 1, 2012 21:34:53 GMT womble said:

I've honestly tried to read the Wikipeadia page about it, but I still don't get it. It's massive and very confusing.

What exactly is the problem?

Hi Womble,

Essentially it's attempting to stop legislation that would enable a select group of rich corporations and governments to in effect 'censor' the internet. Supposedly to counter piracy and fraud, but casting such a wide net that it will inevitably impact free speech and democratic freedoms imo.

There's a huge stink about it, and rightly so imo.

Cheers,
John

I see the piracy and fraud in the legislation, but tbh, I don't see the rest.

Show me the bit that will impact free speech and democratic freedoms and I will sign in a heartbeat.

[jerryrm]

If indeed Obama signed it, then he has overstepped his authority and it is not valid in the U.S.

All laws and treaties must be approved by both houses of Congress and then signed by the President, before they become law.