mixing question

[jacq]

Hi, where's the best place to get equipment for mixing your own juice? I'd like to do this but don't know where to start! What equipment would I need minimum as a newbie. I'm going thru e liquid at a rate of knots and want to save some money!!

[babs]

Hi jacq ukflavours www.ukflavours.com/diy-kits/159-pg-starter-kit-1-.html seems popular and a good price includes all you need plus choose 12 flavour samples. There is a mixology section on the forum for any further help you may need. Good luck it is very easy to mix your own

[phtumshk]

The @ukflavours is a nice little kit, and the concs Ive had so far have been very good.
Youll get roughly 50 10ml bottles of 12mg juice out of it for around 60p a bottle if my math is correct.
That would be a high PG juice so an extra VG at some point would be needed to up the VG content to eek it out a little further.
Good luck.

[Deleted]

It's not as daunting as it first seems jacq  this made it all clear to me I bought a kit from The Alchemists cupboard similar to the one mentioned but without all the concentrates and it has all you need to get started. The only thing I would say is that you're probably better off with the VG kit as explained by Frogster in the guide I linked to. Also take note of the safe handling of nicotine.

I soon found measuring in ml with syringes a pain so invested in some scales that measure to 0.01g and mix by weight now, that made the process much easier, more accurate, less faff and quicker cleaning up after. All the best with you new venture

[phatfil]

May 7, 2015 15:09:57 GMT @scooby said:

It's not as daunting as it first seems jacq  this made it all clear to me I bought a kit from The Alchemists cupboard similar to the one mentioned but without all the concentrates and it has all you need to get started. The only thing I would say is that you're probably better off with the VG kit as explained by Frogster in the guide I linked to. Also take note of the safe handling of nicotine.

I soon found measuring in ml with syringes a pain so invested in some scales that measure to 0.01g and mix by weight now, that made the process much easier, more accurate, less faff and quicker cleaning up after. All the best with you new venture

Hi @scooby perhaps i missed it on my glance thru the guide you linked to but whats the mass of 1ml of concentrate, or do you assume that all 1ml volumes weigh the same? and mix based on the ratios?  tia

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I use 1g/ml for all concentrates phatfil, I'm not sure it's exact but it's close enough for the quantities used.

The other ones I use are:
Nic is 1.01g/ml so you can work out the weight of 1ml of any strength base.
72mg VG base 1.24g/ml
72mg PG base 1.034g/ml
VG 1.26g/ml
PG 1.036g/ml

I have seen slight variations of this but as with weighing, it's consistency and not absolute accuracy that matters.

I use the mixing calculator on here then I put the ml for each ingredient into a simple spreadsheet to give me the weights

[phatfil]

Cheers @scooby washing/rinsing all the syringes is a real pita and trying to keep them dedicated to a singke liquid is almost as bad, a £5 set of drug dealers scales might be a nice solution to the problem..

[Deleted]

May 7, 2015 16:59:06 GMT phatfil said:

Cheers @scooby washing/rinsing all the syringes is a real pita and trying to keep them dedicated to a singke liquid is almost as bad, a £5 set of drug dealers scales might be a nice solution to the problem..

Totally agree, makes mixing a pleasure and there are some good cheap scales about, not spot on accurate but consistency is what you want.

[sydsut]

Using syringes is half the fun of mixing, IMHO, and when I'm mixing I enjoy a good cackle or too.

[leroy4bz]

I agree the syring route works for me. By buying 1ml by the 100 you can use a new one for every concentrate, then rinse them all at the end.

[Deleted]

Concentrates all have a drip spout so they get dropped straight into the mixing vessel on the scales.

I fit these to my PG, VG and nic base and do the same with them. No syringes used at all so no faff or mess of trying to measure say 13.35ml in a syringe, just drop it in until it weighs 16.82g
Yep syringes work but for me they make unnecessary work

[vince01]

May 8, 2015 12:20:05 GMT @scooby said:

Concentrates all have a drip spout so they get dropped straight into the mixing vessel on the scales.

I fit these to my PG, VG and nic base and do the same with them. No syringes used at all so no faff or mess of trying to measure say 13.35ml in a syringe, just drop it in until it weighs 16.82g
Yep syringes work but for me they make unnecessary work

Dont you have problems with your mix sticking to your mixing vessel ?

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Not sure I know what you mean @vince01i

[vince01]

May 8, 2015 16:20:17 GMT @scooby said:

Not sure I know what you mean @vince01i

When you weigh the liquids do you do an all in one mix and keep a running total of the weight, or do you mix the liquids one at a time straight into your dropper bottle ? I would have thought that if you used a separate mixing vessel some liquids especially vg, would leave a residue that would throw your subsequent weighing out, or do you not need to be that accurate ?

[chykensa]

I always round up my mixes (using syringes, I should add) to the nearest whole number - 16.58 would get rounded to 17, etc. It really isn't going to make that much difference to my 30,50 and 100ml mixes if I lose.42ml somewhere along the way!
Rinsing syringes - I mix in the kitchen with a bowl of warm water at my elbow, and give them a quick 'suck-up' or three plus a jiggle in the water between uses - what could be simpler!?