Could someone help me about these super duper high watt mods

[johnnyboy]

Right firstly I have a vamo its good enough at the moment but I just wonder about the super powerful box mods
n stuff, I am not interested in blowing loads of vape out, all I am really interested in is getting a load of flavour
I build my own coils n wicks usually in a Kayfun 3.1 clone, Its ok but my real question is what do you get from
the high watts, low ohms coils, does the e liquid really taste so much better? I am thinking of upgrading but just
dont know the answer to these questions and whether it will be of benefit in taste to spend x amount of money
so any help or advice from you is greatly appreciated. But please talk in English cos Im not sure about some of
the terminologys....Cheers

[aliscampbell]

What other tanks have you got? For me high watts are good for tanks or drippers that are dual coil and have good airflow to make the most of it. I don't put more than 12 watts on my kayfun but vape happily at 20 watts on my drippers and orchids. I personally don't see the point of 150 watts for my style of vaping but it might suit you.

[Deleted]

Hi mate. I sub ohm 0.1 to 0.8. But I still like using a 10watt istick mini with a 1.6- 1.8 build on a dripper, that also gives good flavours. The more powerful mods are good to own as even if yiu only vape at 20 watts the battery's last so much longer, less faffing about. I'm looking at a 100w box just so when the mood takes me I can vape higher on a dripper but I doupt I'll ever go higher than 70ish.

Another way to look at is get a 30w mod use at 25w so that means you have a 5 watt buffer and not running at full blast, much safer I think also

Hope that's a help

[giles]

I was a happy vamo/kayfun user. I mostly vape for taste, but once in a while I like more vapour, so I treated myself to a 30 watt istick and a mini clouper (and an orchid and a goliath).

The vamos are now for backup - I find an extra couple of watts improves the taste a little on my ordinary 1.8 ohm build in a kayfun-type atty, and the mini box mods are more comfortable to use.

A lot depends on your juice. My normal one tastes as strong as I like at around 16 watts. I only go sub-ohm when I want the vapour.

If your 18650s are still in good nick the mini clouper is a good buy at around £18 from fasttech. If you aren't chasing vapour then I shouldn't think you'd need more than 30 watts.

[Get Off My Cloud]

You're not going to get anything different from your Kayfun by whacking in higher watts other than a hotter vape and more chance of a burnt hit.
Tanks like the Kayfun are really designed for mouth to lung style vaping, similar to smoking a cigarette you take a draw on the tank and then take an inhale of air after to draw the vapour into the lungs.
They work that way because the airflow is somewhat restricted, aside from making the draw tighter similar to a cigarette you're also pulling less air through to cool the coil down so you don't need as much power to keep the coil at the temperature you want.
Also these tanks aren't really made for sub ohm vaping so because the resistance of the coil is higher it again requires less power to bring the coil up to temperature to start with.

Stuff like RDA's or Sub Ohm style tanks have a more open airflow more airflow equals more vapour a bi product of more airflow also means a different style of vaping instead of mouth to lung vaping your inhaling the vapour directly into the lungs from the atomizer.
To achieve a sub ohm coil people tend to use a thicker gauge wire, the resistance of that wire is lower so it takes more power to heat up, you also need the extra power to keep the coil up at the right temperature because you have a greater amount of airflow cooling the coil down as you vape.

Me personally i prefer the direct lung style of vaping it's really not just about big clouds of vapour i just find it more satisfying and more flavourful.
If you do move onto that style of vaping you'll probably find you'll need to reduce the nicotine concentration of your liquid firstly because you're inhaling more vapour so need a less concentrated liquid to get your nicotine fix and secondly with high nicotine juice you'll have a monster throat hit and probably end up having a coughing fit.
I jumped straight from 18mg nicotine to 6mg when i started vaping direct lung style.

I really wouldn't worry so much about the max figure on a mod though if you like the look of it and it's in your budget then get it, the whole point of a VW regulated device is you tailor it to your style of vape you don't need to run it at full whack, most tend to start at 5-7w as their lowest setting.
I have several that will fire 100-150w i've never gone close to that high i got them because they take twin 18650 batteries so the battery life is twice as long between charges.

[prr]

I'm perfectly happy with 1.2- 1.8 ohms at around 10-13 watts. All my liquids give good flavour and vapour within this range.
Have devices that will go to 30 watts and 70watts,nfrankly don't use the upper end!

[Perpetua]

As well as the Cloupor  . . . . I really rate and like the iStick 30w johnnyboy:

www.fasttech.com/products/2305003

Whilst it isn't massive in the wattage department, for an average vaper who wants to maybe paddle in the sub-ohm waters from time to time - it does the job nicely without being too bulky or costly.

[johnnyboy]

OK thanks for all the advice I've ordered the £18 cloupor hopefully its the real deal? will go a bit lower ohm on the coils
and as they say suck it n see, I don't think I will get too adventurous, the pocket doesn't allow, I have got a couple of
dual coil set-ups on the Russian clones ( I think ) will try them on my new toy when it arrives....its great this waiting for
the postie with this stuff init lol

[monty]

The cheapest way to see if high Watts if for you is to get a dripper with big air holes. Lots available from FT.

[vapee]

Those high watt vapors like 100 watt+ seem to mainly use drippers, although some tanks can go pretty high too, but the big airflow from some of those dripper really cools the vape down so its not as crazy as you would imagine, also using wire thats very thick requires some high wattage to even create much vapor so you could have a cool vape at say 20 watts in those compared to a kayfun which would not cope at that kind of wattage unless modified maybe.

Also with high watts you can take a short drag like 2 seconds vs maybe 5 seconds from lower watts and still get a tonne of vapor, it all depends on whether the flavor is good when hotter too as some don't taste as good whilst others are better.

Something to note also is with high watts people use high vg juices mainly as high pg would become a bit harsher on the throat, but also depends on whether you want alot of vapor or not too and would need to wick tanks for high vg with less cotton than higher pg.

[johnnyboy]

Ive learnt the answer to most of my questions all in one go on this thread, not sure
I will ever go high watts other than try a few times with my new toys capabilities,
was mostly inquisitive but find its a whole new ball game from the way I vape now
and who knows I might like it and have a rolls royce mod this time next year so
thank you to you all for your help.

[reefcat]

Some great info on this thread. I'm a returning vaper & have just bought an IStick 50 & a subtank mini. In the past I was using Kayfuns & Russian clones on mech mods, both have restricted airflow but vape well at 8-12 watts. I have just built the subtank RBA to my normal 1.2ohm and find it way too airy for my style of vaping. There's so little air resistance that I start coughing immediately with my normal 20mg juices even on the lowest air setting.

Having read this thread it seems that I should try the subtank with lower nic juice and inhaling direct to the lungs. Hoping I can work my way through the coughing fits.....Been back on the cigarettes for the last a8 months or so, hoping that I can find a setup that will allow me to quit them for good.

[flavourtank]

Jun 14, 2015 10:05:22 GMT reefcat said:

Some great info on this thread. I'm a returning vaper & have just bought an IStick 50 & a subtank mini. In the past I was using Kayfuns & Russian clones on mech mods, both have restricted airflow but vape well at 8-12 watts. I have just built the subtank RBA to my normal 1.2ohm and find it way too airy for my style of vaping. There's so little air resistance that I start coughing immediately with my normal 20mg juices even on the lowest air setting.

Having read this thread it seems that I should try the subtank with lower nic juice and inhaling direct to the lungs. Hoping I can work my way through the coughing fits.....Been back on the cigarettes for the last a8 months or so, hoping that I can find a setup that will allow me to quit them for good.[/quote
you should lower nic level.

I was on 12 and had to half it with subtank mini so I'm on 6mg.
They do recommend direct lung hits with these tanks but you can do mouth to lung.
also depends on how much distance there is between air hole and coil

[baron]

Indeed all this info is of interest to me, as I like to see the views of others who use stuff and what they do with it.

I would normally just vape with 1.6-2.1 ohm coils, and that is because of the coils supplied with a new tank, as I didn't really have a clue about how to use them, and just re-ordered the same.
All I did was to start off at about 8 watts and then gradually increase the wattage until it the vape got too hot, burnt or both, and then back off to find the setting that suited me.

I have increased (spending) the amount of mods of the box type, which is the iStick 30W, Cloupor Mini 30W, and the MVP3 Pro. so my range of wattages (incl. the MVP2 and VTR2 my year old mods) are 11W - 60W, which should just about cover all of my requirements as I get newer tanks with lower ohm ratings.

I have recently moved into the .5 ohm range with the iSub tank which is a perfect match for my MVP3 Pro (but works just as well with any of the 30 watters) and discovered how nice a lung draw is compared to mouth-lung.
I find that about 23.5W is about right for me, as any higher then the vape tends to be a bit too warm for my liking, although some reviewers vape it at 30W or a bit higher.

My Cloupor Mini 30W I bought from Banggood.com for £18 (near enough) and it only took 12 days to reach me, faster I think than Ft, and it's genuine and doesn't suffer from the explodingitis - at least not on test.

So I am enjoying the vape from a .5 ohm coil, but, I still enjoy my iClear 30S, and the two Nautilusesses - Mini and maxi with the new BVC coils with 1.6 and 1.8 coils.

I rarely use my Aspire ET-S BDC/BVC, iClear X.I (no coils) and iClear 30 tanks now, as they are not as enjoyable (compared to all the new tanks) as they used to be.
The wife uses my iClear Gladius as it suits her, since she is a casual vaper and not fully off the ciggies.

As you can see, I like Innokin and Aspire products.

[igual]

Some great advice given by the others so I'll just share what I use a
Sigelie 100+ for my subtank and cloud chasing dripper.
Subtank I run about 21-26 w depending on juice.
And Kennedy dripper about 60-70w again depending on juice.
Istick 20w I have my kayfuns on and run them about 15-18 w.