Looking into starting mixing

[darkdragoness1986]

Hi.

I'm looking into starting to mix my own liquids soon. I was wondering how much space the equipment needed for mixing would take up?

Also which kits do people recommend?

And what calculator to use on an android device as my phone/tablet are the only way I can get online!

TIA

[phatfil]

a fair amount of space, 2 x storage boxes, one (medium sized) to keep all the flavours think 20+ 10-50ml bottles, bases 2 x 1l bottles and 2-300ml bottles to decant into.. 50ml-250ml nic base, gloves, syringes/ measuring cups, mixing bottles, and empty bottles, and a second box (small) to contain your mixed up juices while they steep.

Nicotine base is best kept in the freezer for shelf life and potency reasons afaik.

fwiw i just bought 25 x 30ml and 50ml bottles for mixing and steeping in, 50ml bottles for 30ml mixes gives plenty of headspace to ensure a good mix with a minimal shake

[Perpetua]

Jun 7, 2015 16:25:58 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

 I was wondering how much space the equipment needed for mixing would take up?

Depends how much you succumb to buying darkdragoness1986!

A shelf in a kitchen cupboard if you're frugal . . . . .

The forum calculator should be compatible with your phone/tablet:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/page/calculator

@ukflavours have some good value starter kits:

www.ukflavours.com/

Unfortunately Sarah's site is currently in Maintenance Mode, but if you PM her on here then I'll sure she'll help you out.

[darkdragoness1986]

I'm just starting researching it atm. I am moving soon so won't be buying the equipment until after I've moved. I wanted to know about space so I can keep an area for it once I've moved.

[Perpetua]

Jun 7, 2015 20:02:55 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

 I wanted to know about space so I can keep an area for it once I've moved.

Whatever space you do designate . . . . double it at least if you're anything like the rest of us darkdragoness1986.

[darkdragoness1986]

Jun 7, 2015 20:13:00 GMT Perpetua said:

Jun 7, 2015 20:02:55 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

 I wanted to know about space so I can keep an area for it once I've moved.

Whatever space you do designate . . . . double it at least if you're anything like the rest of us darkdragoness1986.

Lol! Tbh I don't think I'll be allowed to spend too much. My partner tends to keep a very close eye on how much of anything I get, even though I'll be mixing for him as well hopefully!

[Perpetua]

Jun 7, 2015 21:14:46 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

Jun 7, 2015 20:13:00 GMT Perpetua said:

Whatever space you do designate . . . . double it at least if you're anything like the rest of us darkdragoness1986.

Lol! Tbh I don't think I'll be allowed to spend too much. My partner tends to keep a very close eye on how much of anything I get, even though I'll be mixing for him as well hopefully!

He'll soon change his tune once you've made a few mixes he enjoys and sees the savings you can make.

Then of course, there are the ' competitions ' you're very likely to win . . . . . .

[wibble]

Jun 7, 2015 16:43:40 GMT phatfil said:

Nicotine base is best kept in the freezer for shelf life and potency reasons afaik.

I didn't realise nicotine base should be kept in the freezer ??!!

[Perpetua]

Jun 8, 2015 6:08:00 GMT wibble said:

Jun 7, 2015 16:43:40 GMT phatfil said:

Nicotine base is best kept in the freezer for shelf life and potency reasons afaik.

I didn't realise nicotine base should be kept in the freezer ??!!

It doesn't have to be wibble . . . . if you're intending using it within a couple of years then a cool dark cupboard/fridge is perfectly adequate.

Storing in the freezer is more towards long term storage - over a couple of years, then it's best to decant into amber glass bottles if that's your intention.


allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/48111/bulk-nicotine?page=1

[darkdragoness1986]

Jun 8, 2015 5:17:56 GMT Perpetua said:

Jun 7, 2015 21:14:46 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

Lol! Tbh I don't think I'll be allowed to spend too much. My partner tends to keep a very close eye on how much of anything I get, even though I'll be mixing for him as well hopefully!

He'll soon change his tune once you've made a few mixes he enjoys and sees the savings you can make.

Then of course, there are the ' competitions ' you're very likely to win . . . . . .

I already use that excuse for stuff I spend now, he's started asking for proof of said competition. And until I can get him a decent e-cig there's no way he'll be able to fully appreciate any liquids. Atm he's using a really cheap one from the local stand in the shopping centre with their 24mg liquid and not getting enough throat hit or liking the flavour enough to give up the stinkies!

[wibble]

My bottle should be used in a year or so (of not quicker lol) Perpetua

[Perpetua]

Jun 8, 2015 8:45:55 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

Jun 8, 2015 5:17:56 GMT Perpetua said:

He'll soon change his tune once you've made a few mixes he enjoys and sees the savings you can make.

Then of course, there are the ' competitions ' you're very likely to win . . . . . .

I already use that excuse for stuff I spend now, he's started asking for proof of said competition. And until I can get him a decent e-cig there's no way he'll be able to fully appreciate any liquids. Atm he's using a really cheap one from the local stand in the shopping centre with their 24mg liquid and not getting enough throat hit or liking the flavour enough to give up the stinkies!

Can he not buy his own darkdragoness1986?

Considering he's still smoking, presumably he finds the money for those.



* Incidentally, if you need any assistance with a competition ' win ' form just let me know. *

[darkdragoness1986]

Jun 9, 2015 6:15:33 GMT Perpetua said:

Jun 8, 2015 8:45:55 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

I already use that excuse for stuff I spend now, he's started asking for proof of said competition. And until I can get him a decent e-cig there's no way he'll be able to fully appreciate any liquids. Atm he's using a really cheap one from the local stand in the shopping centre with their 24mg liquid and not getting enough throat hit or liking the flavour enough to give up the stinkies!

Can he not buy his own darkdragoness1986?

Considering he's still smoking, presumably he finds the money for those.



* Incidentally, if you need any assistance with a competition ' win ' form just let me know. *

He gets online even less than me and doesn't get forums and how to get support on them like I do (we both have aspergers syndrome but it affects us very differently). So I come on, find information and send him links. He finds something he likes and I get it. He's been smoking for 30 years and can't just give up due to his asthma and copd which is why he needs to get the throat hit right, he's drug-resistant and atm the stinkies are the only thing keeping his lungs clear.
Also all his spare money is being saved up so he can survive over the summer when his hours drop dramatically when his workplace closes for up to 12 weeks while he's on a 0 hour contract! He loves his job but hates working through an agency!

[Perpetua]

Jun 9, 2015 6:32:30 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

Jun 9, 2015 6:15:33 GMT Perpetua said:

Can he not buy his own darkdragoness1986?

Considering he's still smoking, presumably he finds the money for those.



* Incidentally, if you need any assistance with a competition ' win ' form just let me know. *

He gets online even less than me and doesn't get forums and how to get support on them like I do (we both have aspergers syndrome but it affects us very differently). So I come on, find information and send him links. He finds something he likes and I get it. He's been smoking for 30 years and can't just give up due to his asthma and copd which is why he needs to get the throat hit right, he's drug-resistant and atm the stinkies are the only thing keeping his lungs clear.
Also all his spare money is being saved up so he can survive over the summer when his hours drop dramatically when his workplace closes for up to 12 weeks while he's on a 0 hour contract! He loves his job but hates working through an agency!

My nephew also has Aspergers, so I know the challenges it can bring . . . .

Sounds like you may just have to bite the bullet and buy him some better kit darkdragoness1986 - with what he's currently using he's probably no chance of making the switch.

[darkdragoness1986]

Jun 9, 2015 6:39:06 GMT Perpetua said:

Jun 9, 2015 6:32:30 GMT darkdragoness1986 said:

He gets online even less than me and doesn't get forums and how to get support on them like I do (we both have aspergers syndrome but it affects us very differently). So I come on, find information and send him links. He finds something he likes and I get it. He's been smoking for 30 years and can't just give up due to his asthma and copd which is why he needs to get the throat hit right, he's drug-resistant and atm the stinkies are the only thing keeping his lungs clear.
Also all his spare money is being saved up so he can survive over the summer when his hours drop dramatically when his workplace closes for up to 12 weeks while he's on a 0 hour contract! He loves his job but hates working through an agency!

My nephew also has Aspergers, so I know the challenges it can bring . . . .

Sounds like you may just have to bite the bullet and buy him some better kit darkdragoness1986 - with what he's currently using he's probably no chance of making the switch.

I know, I just don't know what to get him! He likes the thought of one he can adjust the settings on so would like vv/vw (after I explained a bit to him about them going from what I learnt on here) but neither of us know further than that. He's not looking at anything that would need too much faffing so rebuildables are out as he simply does not have time (often works 14+ hour shifts) I don't think I'll manage to do them as I have severe dyspraxia as well! It's gonna be enough for me to do the mixing!