Keeping me and the wife Happy

[maccafan]

Mar 12, 2012 15:00:48 GMT Gordy said:

Mar 12, 2012 9:24:28 GMT maccafan said:

What a useful and helpful post.

Ok , you don't 'need' a multimeter.

in what way was this post not helpful??

cut the wire to length will give you a more accurate result. what is the point in making things more complicated for a beginner?

If you want to contradict what someone else has said or want to advise on an alternate method at the very least make the effort tell the newbie how to work it out instead of just contradicting and making a cryptic statement of a simple calculation without actually detailing the calculation.

Someone wants a rebuildable atomizer and you fear he/she will confused about using a multimeter. Ok.

[jlowdo]

sorry - was supposed to be in my 'new LT' thread - danged wine!

[Chrissie]

i'll see f i can move that post for you james

edit - post moved

[jlowdo]

ta

[Gordy]

Mar 13, 2012 18:45:06 GMT maccafan said:

Mar 12, 2012 15:00:48 GMT Gordy said:

in what way was this post not helpful??

cut the wire to length will give you a more accurate result. what is the point in making things more complicated for a beginner?

If you want to contradict what someone else has said or want to advise on an alternate method at the very least make the effort tell the newbie how to work it out instead of just contradicting and making a cryptic statement of a simple calculation without actually detailing the calculation.

Someone wants a rebuildable atomizer and you fear he/she will confused about using a multimeter. Ok.

we're all here to help each other and criticising how someone posts really isnt helping ...if you feel there want enough information then add the info yourself ...much more productive than rolling your eyes dont you think ?

[maccafan]

Mar 14, 2012 0:54:46 GMT Gordy said:

we're all here to help each other and criticising how someone posts really isnt helping ...if you feel there want enough information then add the info yourself ...much more productive than rolling your eyes dont you think ?

Gordy,

When you quote someone's post and post something contradictory without any other information, the intention behind the post becomes very ambiguous. For me, it certainly did not come across as helping the thread starter.

I help people where I can with my limited knowledge and sometimes I am right and many a time I am wrong. My general outlook to forums is that I sign up with the intention of interacting and gaining knowledge from experienced people and maybe have some fun in the process and help where possible with the knowledge gained.

It takes time to understand the intentions of people you interact with, especially in forums where people are not face to face. Maybe I misunderstood your intentions behind your post and hence my reaction. Let's leave it at that.

[Gordy]

i was simply stating that you dont 'need' a multimeter and measuring the wire will do for the majority ...i dont see your point unless you were upset that i contradicted you. i which case it wasnt a contradiction as the quote marks were intended as an alternative.

i am afraid you will have to get used to people having contradicting views and their own way of doing things.

if you thought i didnt give enough information then ask. i read every single post on this forum that takes up alot of my time so i try and be as direct in my answering as i can. this also helps to reduce confusing the less experienced that dont want to see a post full of equations.

[Gordy]

Mar 14, 2012 8:54:52 GMT maccafan said:

It takes time to understand the intentions of people you interact with, especially in forums where people are not face to face. Maybe I misunderstood your intentions behind your post and hence my reaction. Let's leave it at that.

there was no hidden intention... it was a simple alternative

please try re-reading and this may become clear

now lets get back to helping people

[jlowdo]

sorry for causing any friction guys!

[Gordy]

no worries James... no friction here mate... possibly a little misunderstanding

[maccafan]

Mar 14, 2012 11:49:23 GMT Gordy said:

ii am afraid you will have to get used to people having contradicting views and their own way of doing things.

Exactly my point. I wouldn't do carry out a rewicking/coil rebuild job it without using a multimeter. For me, it's a must have.

I am used to people having different views all the time and I am a great proponent of free speech. What I will react to is people contradicting for the sake of it.

[blakey]

So the upshot is, macca wouldn't make a coil without a multimeter, Great to be cautious and precise, I should be that a little more sometimes
A multimeter isn't a necessity, a simple calculation and a ruler will suffice.
And when you buy a provari you can just make the coil and test it out on that
lol

[VE Jason]

That's all well and good Blakey, but what if I don't have a ruler...Tut

[blakey]

Mar 14, 2012 16:50:45 GMT VE Jason said:

That's all well and good Blakey, but what if I don't have a ruler...Tut

Then use your pinky finger- tut, do you not read all the posts properly

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[maccafan]

Whatever works for different folks..

A lot of time we buy stuff in group buys and the wire just arrives in a little pouch with no information. So I have no idea what wire size it is or the resistance. Manufacturers data sheets also only give resistivity at a certain temperature and not the ohms per meter. Example:

www.kanthal.com/products/material-datasheets/wire/resistance-heating-wire-and-resistance-wire/kanthal-a-1/

www.kanthal.com/products/material-datasheets/wire/resistance-heating-wire-and-resistance-wire/kanthal-a/

Checking for shorts and continuity after the rebuild and before putting it on a battery is always a good idea anyway and for me putting down two terminals on a piece of wire and reading a display is a lot easier and quicker than measuring out a piece of wire with a ruler. Nope, I would never do a rebuild without a multimeter normally.

But if I am stuck on a train and desperately had to do a rebuild it would be pinky finger and teeth I am afraid. So it's good to know all alternatives, I guess.