Horizon TV Program

[Get Off My Cloud]

Overall pretty decent the only bit that annoyed me a bit was the anti smoking bloke with the chamber.
He says he's worried about seeing possible health impacts 30 or 40 years down the road my question is why aren't you excited to seeing positive health benefits down the road?

[MRS SLEEPY]

May 22, 2016 21:40:28 GMT Lee said:

I just wish they would stop showing cloud chasers when ever they show vapers

Its like showing football hooligans at every football match instead of the normal fans

I agree on that, it looks bad on us. What you do at home is ok. But not outside .

[striker42]

On the evidence of that programme, I see no reason to change how or what I vape (menthol included). Bottom line for me : vaping is still, even with the concerns raised, 95% safer than smoking.

[gill2009]

May 22, 2016 21:51:42 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Overall pretty decent the only bit that annoyed me a bit was the anti smoking bloke with the chamber.
He says he's worried about seeing possible health impacts 30 or 40 years down the road my question is why aren't you excited to seeing positive health benefits down the road?

  Very good point Get Off My Cloud 

[catface26]

May 22, 2016 21:50:30 GMT djs said:

So, one negative comment.

Put two high power vapers (100w + combined vaping) in a room and then say "more aerosol than previous tests".

Where's the science in that? My dog could have reached that conclusion. No comparison against two not-cloud chasers. Anyone who has vaped in the loos at the cinema/costa/british rail will tell you vapor hangs around; the more the vapor the more the aerosol, the longer to clear.

I half agree. I think it was almost better that they did it with 2 "cloud chasers" as that meant that it was the worst possible scenario. Take a much bigger space and just yourself with a MTL device and the results are gonna be even better when compared to passive smoking. 

[Lee]

May 22, 2016 21:51:42 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Overall pretty decent the only bit that annoyed me a bit was the anti smoking bloke with the chamber.
He says he's worried about seeing possible health impacts 30 or 40 years down the road my question is why aren't you excited to seeing positive health benefits down the road?

Just think if he had been about when cars first came about and he had been using a horse

[gill2009]

May 22, 2016 21:55:10 GMT striker42 said:

On the evidence of that programme, I see no reason to change how or what I vape (menthol included). Bottom line for me : vaping is still, even with the concerns raised, 95% safer than smoking.

  I agree with my wingman 

[Perpetua]

May 22, 2016 21:33:37 GMT DiscoDes said:

So, what does we all think of that?

Interesting - overall a balanced, positive approach minus any ' hysteria ' so all credit for that.

If as a current smoker considering e-cigs watching the program, it would certainly have encouraged me to give them a try over anything else available.

[X&Y]

May 22, 2016 21:53:19 GMT MRS SLEEPY said:

May 22, 2016 21:40:28 GMT Lee said:

I just wish they would stop showing cloud chasers when ever they show vapers

Its like showing football hooligans at every football match instead of the normal fans

I agree on that, it looks bad on us. What you do at home is ok. But not outside .

Totally agree

And those two vapers if they want to protect vaper's rights don't sit in a sealed chamber and blow massive clouds that put peoples backs up and lead those not in the know to wrongly believe that vaping is just as bad, unacceptable and invasive as smoking.

[sydsut]

On the whole a good, positive outcome for vaping. Balance was just right.

[toots]

I thought it was mostly positive, just a couple of negatives in there, but on the whole a good programme pro vaping instead of an anti vaping one

I would have liked to see a longer experiment period regarding those using NRT products and those using e-cigs - I bet e-cigs would have come out on top after say a 6 month period. Most of us know or have experience that NRT products don't often work long term, whereas e-cigs in the main tend to be much better long term.

[Jules]

I must admit i am a bit worried now about menthol as that's all I have really vaped in my years of vaping especially the strong stuff from joose juice at 20% extra as well ????

[dagl]

Gotta laugh! My daughter's just txt'd me asking how VapingBad ended up on the tv!!

[striker42]

May 22, 2016 21:51:42 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Overall pretty decent the only bit that annoyed me a bit was the anti smoking bloke with the chamber.
He says he's worried about seeing possible health impacts 30 or 40 years down the road my question is why aren't you excited to seeing positive health benefits down the road?

Maybe he wasn't clever enough to work out that by vaping, some of us are increasing our chances of getting 30 or 40 years down the road. What would our chances be of achieving that if we were all still smoking ?

[VapingBad]

May 22, 2016 21:50:30 GMT djs said:

So, one negative comment.

Put two high power vapers (100w + combined vaping) in a room and then say "more aerosol than previous tests".

Where's the science in that? My dog could have reached that conclusion. No comparison against two not-cloud chasers. Anyone who has vaped in the loos at the cinema/costa/british rail will tell you vapor hangs around; the more the vapor the more the aerosol, the longer to clear.

I thought that at first, but the results were good, a little nic & no nasties, far far less than fags.