Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD

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Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD Jun 1, 2016 14:59:45 GMT

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From Vapefest Ireland's Facebook page:

"It is with great sadness that we have had to make the decision to cancel Vapefest 2016. We have taken a huge amount of advice from organisations and legal bodies to see if there is anyways around the TPD restrictions. We have been advised that Article 20, section 5, sub section d of the TPD (Page 28/29) makes any public event promoting anything to do with ecigs, that is in anyways commercial or looks to receive donations / sponsorship, is against the law and as such the organizers could be faced with stiff fines and / or prison... "

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gill2009 Super Member Gillybeans dementing disgracefully Joined:March 2014 Posts: 11,001 Location: Likes: 10,864 P.M. Recent Posts Last Online Nov 29, 2024 17:18:11 GMT	Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD Jun 1, 2016 15:17:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by gill2009 on Jun 1, 2016 15:17:41 GMT OMG...will our Vapefest be affected...please gawd no
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Bobsbeer Super Member Having a glass of wine and a vape Joined:November 2014 Posts: 3,469 Location: Likes: 2,612 P.M. Recent Posts Last Online Apr 13, 2020 6:07:23 GMT	Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD Jun 1, 2016 16:56:26 GMT gill2009 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Bobsbeer on Jun 1, 2016 16:56:26 GMT It would only be against the law in the UK if the UK made a law to say that. They haven't so we are okay. I guess the Irish law is very different to ours.
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Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD Jun 1, 2016 17:24:03 GMT striker42 likes this

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Jun 1, 2016 16:56:26 GMT Bobsbeer said:

It would only be against the law in the UK if the UK made a law to say that. They haven't so we are okay. I guess the Irish law is very different to ours.

It all will revolve around the interpretation of banned promoting, advertising and sponsorship in the TPD.

In UK law, re. sponsorship :

Sponsorship of events etc.

44.—(1) No person may in the course of a business provide electronic cigarette sponsorship to—

(a)an event or activity which takes place in or has an effect in two or more member States (“a cross-border event or activity”); or

(b)an individual taking part in a cross-border event or activity.

(2) In this regulation “electronic cigarette sponsorship” means any form of public or private contribution to any event, activity or individual, with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting an electronic cigarette or refill container.

What that all means .... I'm not sure!

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dagl Super Member Captain Hospitality carpe diem Joined:September 2013 Posts: 4,778 Location: Likes: 5,521 P.M. Recent Posts Last Online Oct 6, 2024 10:00:58 GMT	Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD Jun 1, 2016 18:32:59 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dagl on Jun 1, 2016 18:32:59 GMT Oh that's a shame Postmodern Smoking I really enjoyed last years, would've been nice to go back to Dublin. I see from the fb comments there's some mention of a Belfast VF, have you heard anything about that?
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Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD Jun 1, 2016 18:36:53 GMT dagl likes this

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Jun 1, 2016 18:32:59 GMT dagl said:

Oh that's a shame Postmodern Smoking I really enjoyed last years, would've been nice to go back to Dublin.
I see from the fb comments there's some mention of a Belfast VF, have you heard anything about that?

tbh.... nope.... as Manuel of Fawlty Tower's would say... "I know nothing!"

If I hear of anything I'll let you know.

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Vapefest Ireland 2016 - CANCELLED due to TPD Jun 4, 2016 10:44:00 GMT Postmodern Smoking likes this

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Jun 1, 2016 17:24:03 GMT Postmodern Smoking said:

Jun 1, 2016 16:56:26 GMT Bobsbeer said:

It would only be against the law in the UK if the UK made a law to say that. They haven't so we are okay. I guess the Irish law is very different to ours.

It all will revolve around the interpretation of banned promoting, advertising and sponsorship in the TPD.

In UK law, re. sponsorship :

Sponsorship of events etc.

44.—(1) No person may in the course of a business provide electronic cigarette sponsorship to—

(a)an event or activity which takes place in or has an effect in two or more member States (“a cross-border event or activity”); or

(b)an individual taking part in a cross-border event or activity.

(2) In this regulation “electronic cigarette sponsorship” means any form of public or private contribution to any event, activity or individual, with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting an electronic cigarette or refill container.

What that all means .... I'm not sure!

I think it means that VF UK will be okay as long as no Irish vapers attend.

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