Two Q please

[Dopey]

Hi, I am vaping 12mg of nicotine for mouth to lung, if I do direct to lung, what should the level be, I am guessing 12 is too much
I am going to make my own juice, whats the best place to get it from and flavor concentrates?
not necessarily the cheapest, I want a good flavor product
thanks 

[Perpetua]

I'd suggest 6mg to start with Dopey . . . . . see how you get on and go from there.

My top Vendors for DIY supplies are:

www.darkstarvapour.co.uk/

www.chefsflavours.co.uk/25-concentrates

thee-cigshop.co.uk/

www.rainbowvapes.co.uk/

I'll also pop your thread over to our Shopping Board as you'll be sure to get further recommendations.

[Dopey]

Just as a PS.... why does grape taste so rubbish, not like grape at all, is this an American taste thing? I am in the UK

[Dopey]

Perpetua thanks

[joeten]

I was on 18mg and went to using an Isub G at 6mg.
Have a look at the reviews etc here allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/board/12/concentrate-reviews on concentrates.
Darkstar are pretty good for Nicotine and VG/PG I believe they do a freezer pack for Nic, you might also need some syringes or measuring equipment for mixing and of course bottles etc.

[Perpetua]

Aug 22, 2016 17:20:38 GMT Dopey said:

Just as a PS.... why does grape taste so rubbish, not like grape at all, is this an American taste thing? I am in the UK

I haven't found a Grape flavour that I really like must admit, the ones I've tried all tasted like bubblegum ( which I can't stand ) to me - so I haven't bothered looking any further and stick to fruit flavours that do work for my tastes.

A PS from me also  . . . it's worth getting your mixing career off with some of the excellent ' one shot ' flavours there are around now, just while you're getting too grips with the process and what suits your personal preferences.

[Lee]

If you want lazy mixing, I got my premade base from Bluestar
bluestar-eliquid.com/unflavoured-base-e-liquid/

If you search google, you will find a lot of discount codes for a few of the shops mentioned on here

[djs]

Aug 22, 2016 17:20:38 GMT Dopey said:

Just as a PS.... why does grape taste so rubbish, not like grape at all, is this an American taste thing? I am in the UK

We're nearly all UK.... (just sayin')

"Grape" is nearly always Grape Soda, the American flavor.

[djs]

Aug 22, 2016 17:14:09 GMT Dopey said:

Hi, I am vaping 12mg of nicotine for mouth to lung, if I do direct to lung, what should the level be, I am guessing 12 is too much
I am going to make my own juice, whats the best place to get it from and flavor concentrates?
not necessarily the cheapest, I want a good flavor product
thanks 

I.M.O. the inhalation method is not really as important as the power. Double the power, half the Nicotine, more or less.
You can vape 12mg DTL but you'll find it a bit mad if you go from 12.5 watts to 25 watts.

I recommend Chefs flavours for many brands of concentrate.

*The easy way to start is to buy some pre-mixed VPG in 6mg. Just don't start forking out £12 for 100ml which is what somebody thought was a good deal on another forum.

You can bulk buy everything (get Nicotine liquids well before October to be on the safe side).... * but ultimately to protect yourself in a sensible way, you will need to buy 54mg or 72mg and quite a bit of it.

I bought another 5 x 100ml today, for example. That's enough for a few years mixing.

[Q]

When I saw this post I thought you were asking for 2 of ME

Nobody deserves that

Depends what you want from your grape, do you want a grape drink flavour or are you trying to find a wine flavour?

I use grape in a lot of my recipes and I've found grape concord to be the nicest, I've not tried it by itself but I reckon with a little plum it could give a fairly good red wine (ish) effect.

I'm currently working on a complex Rioja (or RioQa as it will be called), it's getting there but still a fair way from being shareable

[monty]

I'd say 3 or 4 mg/ml. You need to know how much juice you got through mtl and compare this to how much you vape dl -
twice as much : 6 mg/ml
thrice as much : 4 mg/ml
4 times as much :3 mg/ml

[tonyb]

I dropped from 12mg to 6mg when I got in to atomisers that produced more vapour. I would start there and see how you go.

[Dopey]

Thanks everyone, I have ordered 1L of VG and 1L of PG, its for 3 of us, my son his g/f and me, I want to do it by weight, I have 0.00 - 500 scales, i think its going to be a lot easier that way, and cleaner too, I have bought nozzle dropper spouts, to make it easier to make up, I have bought just 250ml on nicotine as it spoils, but if I can freeze it I will by more, have the (some) flavors (one shot, or already mixed) I dont want to make it too complicated to start with, I want to get into it slowly, so I get it right, again thanks for the tips you gave me

[Perpetua]

If you're going to mix by weight these threads could be worth reading Dopey:

vapingunderground.com/threads/guide-to-mixing-by-weight.22891/

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/60060/mixing-weight-compiling-sticky?page=1

There's also another calculator option on the first link, although I think Ejuicemeup or ELR's is more straightforward to follow.

Your nicotine won't spoil if stored correctly . . . . . .

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/48111/bulk-nicotine?page=1