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Post by Lilac on Nov 13, 2010 11:05:22 GMT
For anyone in the market for trying these, Tim at Smokejuice has a selection at much lower prices than cloud9, for instance.... plus postage is only £1.14, i've just ordered a pair of 14500's at £6 the pair, compared to £8 each from Lisa. Chrissie, his 18650's are also £6/pair compared to Lisa's at £12/one, okay, they're 1400mah and Lisa's are 1600, but a great price... Meant to add.... Lithium Manganese (IMR) rechargeable battery chemistry is safer (not needing circuits), offers faster discharge rates and is suited for high power applications (over 3 amps). Safe chemistry means no risk of venting with flame or explosion. Safe to use in series / multi-cell applications. Charge with one of the following chargers: * TR-001 Multi-functional 3.7V Charger * UltraFire 3.2V & 3.7V Rapid Charger
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Post by Chrissie on Nov 13, 2010 13:49:02 GMT
Ooh thanks for that Lilac I could do with some more 18650's.
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Post by Lilac on Nov 13, 2010 14:24:18 GMT
you're welcome Chrissie....says they perform better than the Lithium-ion batts as well
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Post by Perpetua on Nov 13, 2010 22:31:31 GMT
They'd sold out of the 14500's Lilac . . . . an I just bought some 18650's from LF but! I did just buy some 14500's & 14650's from Toby for the GGTB as I've just about given up on DX, ordered on the 17th October and still not here. At least some protection with PayPal.
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Post by Scylla on Nov 13, 2010 22:56:51 GMT
I've just about given up on DX, ordered on the 17th October and still not here.
At least some protection with PayPal. Oh no, I'm waiting on DS too, for my SD MkI. Don't suppose Toby's doing super-performing bargain SD batteries Will have a look though. scylla
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Post by Lilac on Nov 14, 2010 8:21:22 GMT
There are 14500's there Perpy, i just checked?
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Post by Lisa on Nov 14, 2010 14:41:19 GMT
Just to let you know that whilst the BDL LiMN batteries will probably offer you better performance than standard Li-Ions, they can't be directly compared to the AW LiMN batteries which have far better specs.
It's not just about mAh, it's about the actual max current draw that the batteries can produce and AWs cannot be matched.
I do sell some of these generic BDL ones in 10440 and 14500 style and they are very cheap, but you do get what you pay for.
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Post by Chrissie on Nov 14, 2010 15:07:47 GMT
Thanks for letting us know Lisa
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Post by Scylla on Nov 14, 2010 15:53:10 GMT
Thanks for the educative post, Leese scylla x
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Post by Perpetua on Nov 14, 2010 19:42:44 GMT
There are 14500's there Perpy, i just checked? Were there. . . . I hunted but couldn't find them, it's me as I don't find that site terribly easy to navigate. Not to worry Lilac, I've ordered some and the 14560's from Toby, his prices are pretty keen if you buy a couple . . . . and bless him, he mailed to say was I sure I wanted the 14560's as he normally sells them for the BB extension, which he knows I don't have. Really good of him to take the time to check I thought.
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Post by Chrissie on Nov 14, 2010 21:34:45 GMT
Perpy, I really like Tim (Smokejuice) but I agree, hsi site isn't easy to navigate - sorry Tim if you are lurking, but I really do think it needs a complete overhaul. Perpy, the 14500's & other batteries are in the "Mod" section : - www.smokejuice.co.uk/userimages/procart30.htm
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Post by Lilac on Nov 15, 2010 8:26:07 GMT
Thanks Lisa, i did search for information before i bought them, the BDL Imr's do get good reviews, and Tim's postal charges are great, even if the AW ones are better, i'd rather have 3 that perform slightly less well, than pay the same price for 1
was wondering if i should buy a volt meter ?
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Post by Perpetua on Nov 15, 2010 10:02:02 GMT
Perpy, I really like Tim (Smokejuice) but I agree, hsi site isn't easy to navigate - sorry Tim if you are lurking, but I really do think it needs a complete overhaul. Perpy, the 14500's & other batteries are in the "Mod" section : - www.smokejuice.co.uk/userimages/procart30.htmAaah . . . . thanks Chris, I've bookmarked that page now as I was rather thinking there might be an accessory/battery section and I see he does the 14650's as well very reasonably. Not to worry - always something new to learn. A volt meter sounds rather jolly Lilac . . . there was a time I used to get excited about shoes & handbags . . . how times have changed!
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Post by LisaF01 on Nov 16, 2010 6:37:41 GMT
Thanks Lisa, i did search for information before i bought them, the BDL Imr's do get good reviews, and Tim's postal charges are great, even if the AW ones are better, i'd rather have 3 that perform slightly less well, than pay the same price for 1 was wondering if i should buy a volt meter ? Fair enough, I just wanted to point out that the comparison wasn't entirely accurate, in the same way as the comparison between a BMW and a Skoda wouldn't be entirely accurate. The Skoda works just fine, but doesn't have all the capabilities or features of the BMW. In this case, the BDLs don't offer the same max output capabilities as the AWs which can be noticed by some people on an LR atty. More critically though, if you run an LR atty on batteries that aren't rated for it, it does shorten their overall life significantly. But, for those who prefer to have lots of perfectly servicable batts on hand, even if they need replacing more frequently, then the cheaper BDLs might be the better choice. Not griding an axe here, I do both types of batts, just making sure it's clear what the differences are. Probably a good idea to get yourself a voltmeter yes, the LiMN batteries, because of their lower internal resistance are more prone to over-charging and should be watched, particularly when you take them off the charger, to ensure they haven't over-charged at all.
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Post by Lilac on Nov 16, 2010 18:10:23 GMT
Yes, thanks Lisa, i'd read that about them possibly being overcharged, and also it'd be handy in general, to ensure your charger is working as it should...
any recommendation on one of those?
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