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There should be differences between original and second to the market.
Just look at cars the principal is the same the look is the difference and shape and the name.
China does good and bad that's there problem.
Copyright laws don't exist in china and BMW lost millions trying to sue them for copying the m3 and badging it as BMW.
Apple also tried and failed as the factory that makes iPhone was also making the copy's.
china laws have no morals and are all about just to make money.
The fastest growing market in the world that is growing quicker than the top 4 country's combined

Hi all

Just curious is anyone doing anything.....?..... is there any events planned...?
Last year there was a meet at London bridge it was an interesting night....lol.....I won't say to much.
I think it's September the 19th but it seems to be a bit hush hush compared to last year which was a case of get everyone out there show the world and convert and explain to those Intrested in vaping.
Last year we had a load of juice and some kits for people to try and give away at the end of the evening which was donated by vape escape and safercigs.

Well I enjoyed vapefest.....and for me the kopperberg ciders were actually cheaper thanks to the token system :-) just queing for tokens was an added pain as last year you paid at the bar.
There was easily more than double the attendance over last year hence the over crowding but there was no way the organisers could know what the attendance would be unless they sell tickets before hand but a last minuet dash by vapers to buy tickets could compromise any venue pre booked unless ticket numbers are limited.
The disabled parking issue really is an issue of the moat house and not the vapefest organisers.
As far as I can tell this is organised by vapers and not event organisers so every year they learn and improve.
Top job by top people and I'm very grateful for them putting the effort in to make it happen.
Oh and just remember this Wayne was not going to do it vttv said they would do it and make it bigger and better and then pulled out
as a community were lucky to have someone like Wayne who said f**k it lets make this happen

Il be there a bit of shit swapping at work required

If it gets people of the stinkies it's a start....I started on elites and thought there had to be something better so searched on the net and found a world of info.....everyone has to start somewhere...... If it cost to much people are put off.......Charlie's vape shop is the cheapest in the uk so does that make everyone else a rip off

I went In With the eh pro tzmax I got in the group buy with the aqua tank attached .....lol

Edl......English disco lovers.......they keep piping up on my Facebook....lol