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Post by mel on Jun 3, 2016 20:21:42 GMT
I noticed that the message said if too many of the EXACT message was sent it may be seen as spam. After that I kinda re - jiggled a couple of paragraphs and it was fine
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Post by mel on Jun 3, 2016 16:59:02 GMT
This is my dissertation all over again
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Post by mel on Jun 3, 2016 14:41:28 GMT
Hi Folks,I was really pleased to get this reply from Lord Medelsohn which I think shows he is interested and wants to know more. I would really like to get my reply RIGHT so wondered if anyone could help me put together a knock out response.Firstly I will copy the email I sent to him then his reply below that. My email:I am writing to express my grave concern regarding the new restrictions to be placed on the sale and use of electronic cigarettes and their related products. I successfully stopped smoking cigarettes three years ago after being a ‘20 a day’ smoker for 35 years. I have tried every other product on the market, nicotine patches, Zyban, sprays etc and been on a quit programme several times. In fact there isn’t a lot I haven’t tried and the electronic cigarette is the only thing that has worked, not only for me but most of my family and friends too. My life has changed since giving up tobacco, my cough disappeared overnight, I’m able to lots of physical activity that I never could in my whole adult life and, my Grandchildren are more willing with cuddles now I don’t smell like an ashtray! I have now avoided smoking almost 17,000 cigarettes to date.
It seems ridiculous and outrageous that such revolutionary and game changing products and technology, which will help save hundreds of thousands of lives each year, are to be restricted. It seems that they are to restrict products, which have no proven harm forcing people to return to tobacco, which will almost certainly kill them. Significantly, this is against and despite key recommendations by organisations such as The Royal College of Physicians (2016). They clearly state ``the hazard to health arising from long-term vapour inhalation from the e-cigarettes available today is unlikely to exceed 5% of the harm from smoking tobacco’’ and `` in the interests of public health, it is important to promote the use of e-cigarettes, NRT and other non-tobacco nicotine products as widely as possible as a substitute for smoking in the UK’’. Cancer Research, (amongst many others), also support the argument for using e-cigarette over traditional tobacco smoking saying ``the balance of evidence at the moment suggests that e-cigarettes are much safer than smoking tobacco’’.
The proposals for the new restrictions, particularly the limitation of nicotine strength and size of e-liquid bottles available will almost certainly increase the cost and reduce the effectiveness of using these products. Inevitably, this will greatly increase the likelihood of my family, friends and I going back to tobacco after years of being smoke free. In summary, the new restrictions are to take away a less harmful method of using nicotine and drive us back to the one that will almost certainly kill us. How can it possibly make any sense to restrict them? I would like to ask for your attention and support along with Lord Callanan in this matter where the new restrictions should be reconsidered as a matter of urgency.
Kind Regards
Mel
Then Lord Mendelsohn's reply:Dear Mel,
Thank you for your very helpful email.
I think you make the case very well for the health benefits of these products and the useful role they play in stopping smoking. I think this is widely accepted.
There is a case being advocated by some for some measure of restrictions - which i have not either examined in detail nor taken a view on - and I would be very interested in your views.
The argument to apply restrictions to their open market availablility is becasue there are arguments about who they recruit to some form of "smoking" and "nicotine" introduction rather than just who they help to reduce their intake. Do you think that there is a case to ensure that ecigarettes are not widely adopted by those who either by age or by inclination had never previously smoked?
There is also an argument which says that there should be some form of ongoing regulation to ensure that particulates that cause harm are identified and restricted to ensure the maximum available reduction. Do you think that there should be no monitoring or regulation on, say, the amount of nicotine? If there should what should be the factors that should be considered in addition to health?
Finally I am aware that the argument has been made that there could be a cost issue but no one has thus far supplied any details on how or why this should be the impact. COuld you shed some light on the economics of this argument.
Many thanks for your kindness in writing.
Best
Jon
On first name terms already Anyway like I said I could really do with some help, particularly on the `recruiting new people to nicotine' as he puts it and also the `economics' and how it could push up the costs of vaping. Any help most appreciated.
PS I think a few more emails to Lord Mendelsohn could have some impact as he is obviously reading and replying to them himself
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Post by mel on Jun 1, 2016 17:10:55 GMT
Well I haven't had a response from any Lords emails but I got a positive response from my local MP ..... Thank you for your email sent on 28th May regarding the regulation of electronic cigarettes. I am extremely grateful to you for taking the time to share your personal experiences. I believe that decisions on tobacco products need to be taken on the basis of the best available evidence. As you highlight there is a large body of evidence which highlights the positive role which electronic cigarettes play in helping individuals stop smoking. As you highlight new regulations are being introduced which will limit cartridge sizes to 2ml and nicotine levels to 20mg/ml. While I understand that many manufactures have been reducing their cartridge sizes already and that 20mg/ml products are among the most popular in the UK I agree that there are questions that need to be answered. I will therefore write to the Secretary of State for Health putting your points to him and request that he provide a detailed reply. I will write to you again once I have received a response. In the meantime if you feel I can be of any further assistance on this or any other matter please do not hesitate to get in touch. Yours sincerely, Cat Smith Member of Parliament for Lancaster and Fleetwood I thought that was pretty good HOUSE OF COMMONS LONDON SW1A 0AA
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Post by mel on May 28, 2016 15:14:42 GMT
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Post by mel on May 28, 2016 14:25:03 GMT
I've just done 3, i found some of them didnt have the `they work for you ' link plus done a few emails to local MP's Great (Have you updated the spreadsheet, by putting your name or username down alongside those that you wrote to mel ?) Yes I did PMS .... PMS he he
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Post by mel on May 28, 2016 14:10:14 GMT
Sorry it was 4, i found some of them didnt have the `they work for you ' link plus done a few emails to local MP's
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Post by mel on May 28, 2016 11:40:16 GMT
Thanks both. The RCP report was the one I was thinking of. Yes point taken Richard, I have included my own story but I was looking for a credible quote such as: "However, the hazard to health arising from long-term vapour inhalation from the e-cigarettes available today is unlikely to exceed 5% of the harm from smoking tobacco"
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Post by mel on May 28, 2016 11:20:30 GMT
Am just in the process of creating my catalogue of MP letters etc etc
Can anyone give me some quotes/references/sources of recommendations by health organisations/professionals that support vaping
Sorry if it sounds as though I am being lazy but would like them to have some clout in my letters
Fankyoo
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Post by mel on Apr 3, 2016 17:24:24 GMT
great thanks everyone, looks like my retro cig is the only one left that is still being used lol if you do have one i would be more than interested. I now realise i really do need a back up plan in the future (I was warned lol)
and toots am looking at flights as we speak lol
thanks all
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Post by mel on Apr 3, 2016 15:44:11 GMT
Wow Sleedale, that is a very generous offer. Let me know if it still works ok and I would be defo be interested. Of course I would be willing to pay you the going rate + postage. Thanks. I do really like my VTR, am a creature of habit, and it has kept me from the ciggies for almost two years. all the vendors I have used in the past either don't sell them anymore or have dissapeared. I have been looking at some on amazon etc but dont know if they are the real article or what and would prefer to buy from somewhere/someone reputable.
Thanks again (and Perpetua for the advice)
Mel
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Post by mel on Apr 3, 2016 13:02:51 GMT
ok thanks for that, i used to use yellow servisol to clean the contacts but it ran and and ya dont get round to getting more. Think I might be struggling to find a new vtr, not many places sell them these days! As yahoo2 said, looks like the vaping world's moved on when i wasnt looking lol
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Post by mel on Apr 3, 2016 11:34:11 GMT
Having said that .... it would be a good idea to have a spare lol and as i have my new minimum wage increase might treat myself to a reserve one he he
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Post by mel on Apr 3, 2016 11:31:22 GMT
Brilliant, thanks for the help/advice peeps. Yes I am happy with my vtr to be honest so have just ordered some more batteries and if that doesnt solve the problem would probably go for another vtr to be honest Thanks again guys
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Post by mel on Apr 3, 2016 10:59:31 GMT
For some reason it isn't producing the great vape I got when it was new. The lights and display also flash when I am putting batteries in and sometimes when i hit the on/off button. I have it about 18 months and also the efest 18650 batteries (2000mah) from the same time. Do you think I am ready for some new batteries or will the vtr only have a certain lifespan. It's been brilliant up until a couple of weeks ago. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Mel
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