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I don't think there are any e-cigs which are the same size as a regular cigarette.

who suggested recommending a disposable e-ciggie ?

I saw the vttv show, and it was nice to see the activity described at least accurately,
if not necessarily favourably.
One comment I would make is that it is perhaps not a great idea to have
pictures of folks with monster mod contraptions blowing great clouds of
pea soup around (possibly what prompted the showing off comment).

Now don't take this the wrong way, there's nothing I like more than popping
out a big fat smoke ring, and I know that vape doesn't carry and hang around
or stink like fag smoke - but the point is, you can't work that out from a few fleeting
seconds of TV footage. Bear in mind people give far more weight to the images
they see than the words they hear, so a non-smoker seeing that might well think
it's a good reason to be anti.

If you want to see what I mean, try watching with the sound down, and with the
mind set of a vehement anti-smoking killjoy.

Now the other day, I was showing my Riva to a non-smoking friend over Skype,
and the first thing he commented on was how little visible 'smoke' it emitted, so if
we want to sell this to the masses, it might make sense to tone it down a bit when
the TV folks are around

And no, I'd always advise against looky-likeys - they're a bad idea, a poor experience vapour-wise, have shocking battery life and, worst of all look like a fag - and you heard the second landlord in Hull - he wouldn't allow them because they might prompt someone to spark a real one up.

OMG that was funny lol

I'm now imagining your wife wondering why your taking so long up in the attic and popping her head up to check and what a sight she will see. Headhunter passed out on the floor with a fog aroudn him and and possibly darth vader on the attack. Imagine tellign that story to your friends lol

it would definately start with "I'm not crazy but....." lol

And I should prob admit I was wondering at one point what I could create with a dyson, a gas mask and a bottle of LNB juice

i think I can see where Headhunter is coming form here, and please do correct me if I'm wrong.

A lot of people start off using the lookalikes, once they get the hang of it and over the inital "but they don't look like ciggys" aspect of things they move along to more battery power, shineys, etc. But some people (people being the crazy things we are) prefer to keep using the lookalikes, it does what they need it to do for them.

Once you come along to a forum, most of the conversation leads to bigger and better, long lasting, shiney PV's and reccomends movign away from the lookalikes. This isn't for everyones taste.

Maybe a small sub forum specifically for minicigs could be very beneficial to people who wish to stay on the smaller versions. We do have some users who still use a lookalike for their reasons. So maybe not all information should be to push people away from these but point out some of the benifits and best pratice to using these devices also, and then moving along to something "bigger and better" if and when they feel the time is right for them.

All devices out there have their place in the vapeing world, either as an introduction to vapeing or as a staple through the day. Why push people in one specific direction if thats not the way they wish to go.

As for myself, I'm very happy with my Riva and what it delivers for me. But sometimes I feel that a lookalike would also be a useful tool in my vapeing arsenal, for those occasions when you do need to be more descret and maybe blend in a little more. For exampe when driving, its not always easy to hold and push the button, a mini may be more convienient for this situation, or if attendign a very formal event it's easier to fit in your handbag or jacket pocket. I have contemplated a mini for those very reasons and as yet havent found the one I would be happiest with going by the reviews. But maybe a sub forum could point me in the direction I need to go.

To me vapeing is vapeing, the device is just the tool we use to do it, does it really matter that yours has a bigger battery then mine? And as with all humans we all liek somethign different. Thats why theres more than just one flavour of juice and one cartomiser and one PV. Maybe we should include the mini group more than we do already?