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Here is the link: epetitions.direct.gov.uk/

Anyone can create a petition. And the government have no option but to debate it in parliament until a decision has been made. Also I would suggest that IF it was able to get the desired numbers that as many people as possible arrange a trip to London to help promote this. The more News channels that are informed and the correct people who are good at speaking the better. It needs to be led by someone with good charisma (silver tongue).

The more people in the know, the more of a stand off we have against the EU because it is the Tobacco companies that are lobbying for this regulation along with the pharmaceutical companies. The have more money than any of us can dream of and more money than ANY ecig foundation could raise. They also have the worlds best lawyers / lobbyists and would not bat an eye lid at paying top people off to ensure they get their way.

From their point, if millions of people end up using ecigs they will loses billions. That is not an option for the greedy share holders and directors so they WILL fight it with every single penny they have.

So as you can see in black and white there is a huge mountain to tackle with this (Dont mean to put a downer on anything).

We are in a new age where we can communicate with pretty much all parts of the globe, for the first time we are now able to take on "the man" because WE are connected, WE cant be silenced and WE can be the voice that is heard NOT "The man". But that is not enough to make sure the future of esmoking is kept the way it is. ANY influential people must be in the know, people in legal services, government's etc need to be on our side. There is no middle ground because at the end of the day if it did indeed end up close to a banning legislation it would be supported by the big corporations who are the very people who pay the likes of Labor/Conservatives in "donations" IE: backroom deals to get their way.

You do understand that if there is 750,000 esmokers in the UK then only 100,000 signatures are required to get this into a debate in parliament.

Or am I a bit behind on the whole legal element of things?.

Oh dear sorry about this post, result of too much wine hehe.

But either way still a fantastic speech that is rather relevant to today.

Cats are a bit different with medication but dogs are very similar.

I wished so bad we had a good vet like some of you have. But unfortunately when I moved down south, so did the financial element. In Birmingham they "seemed" to care more about the animal in question, cat/dog whichever, but down this side of the woods they are not interested.

On the plus side to the OP, I am glad he is ok and has had the correct treatment to help him. If only you could clone your vets down here as we are in need of a good honest vet. Too many bad experiences with demanding vets, and even taking insurance out they dont seem to be bothered. Again glad he is ok!

I understand this was a different situation, however personally I have training in first aid with people and animals (previous job experience), and that would let me diagnose it without paying hundred of £s.

Basically, at the end of the day a Vet is a business (in their eyes) and they must make good money (partly to blame to the pharmaceutical companies charging fortunes for medication that is identical to the T to what WE take as humans but using basic maths to break down to body/weight ratio).

Not slating anything or anyone, but I am trying to say that the majority of vets are greedy over priced (insert word of choice here) who care nothing but ensuring that extra £ is squeezed from any avenue possible. You will find this is the majority over people who are fortunate such as yourself who has a GOOD vet!. I wish we did

PS: Owner of 3 dogs, one cat and successfully bread two litters all homes with FOREVER homes. Plus all my life being rased with Dogs, cats, horses etc.

Not used the tank version but have the regular old school version. I take this is the same as the Tornado tank? (Ego Tank)