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Update as I promised all liquids were with ukflavours concentrates mixed a few batches up and again 50/50 in results what I can say is the triple strength is good for standalone mix both grape and strawberry are very smooth flavourful vapes 20% flavouring used in both strawberry is very much like fresh fruit taste rather then sweet type flavour whilst grape is just sweet enough and has a to me a floral odour I find it very nice. Black cherry 20% flavour is there but no sweetness and I like a bit of sweetness in my cherry so going to add two drops of etyhal maltol. Butterscotch at 20% is just not there will add another 10% flavouring and a drop of maltol to get that where i want it. Espresso there is a good flavour there but just not coming out at 20% so another I will add another 10% to try and get that upto a nice vape. Amaretto at 20% I'm only getting almond no other taste at all my plan for this one is to combine it with a brandy flavour also at 20% see if that is then an enjoyable vape.

My next order of flavourings are on there way to me from the good folks at ukflavours on triple strength 20% gives plenty of taste and is very nice without being overpowering. Standard concentrates at 20% I find flavour a little lacking so will be playing around with those to find the sweetspot for me. All liquids are a 70% pg & 30% VG with 12mg nicotine base I used to vape 80/20 mixes so my homemade is a little bit smoother although I may alter ratios to 60/40 at some point as now and then a little harshness is there. Next time tutti frutti, orange, toffee, pear, peach and sweet cream which I'll be using to combine with fruit flavours. If anyone wants to know about a flavour before they order let me know if it's one I'm likely to order I'll get it and give as much info as I can on it but I only do one order a month of six flavourings max. Hope this is useful for someone .

Well keep us informed as I'm always happy to support good business and the great thing about liquids is we all buy bits and bobs all over the place so will be a pleasure to be your customer as well as sticking to others.

Congrats mowjo on making the switch it really is nuts how much it improves things and saves you a load of money wish you many happy hours of tinkering ahead :thumbsup:.

Made me remember watching blue peter as a kid there wasn't a problem in the world that couldn't be sorted with some cardboard and double sided sticky tape lol OK now I'm feeling old.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, me and power tools oh no A&E's all over the country are having panic attacks at the idea lol. I'm using what was a very sturdy cardboard box when I started but between the wife cleaning my mancave and the dogs jumping up to investigate the sweet smells leakage has left it less then sturdy . My budget is very tight maybe unrealistically but I'm on benefit so money is a problem I'd love to have a better budget but real life keeps costing more always bad when it interferes with vaping.

I contacted the retailer I bought my subtank from and they sorted the replacements and don't want to throw spanners about but mine were brown not clear as I understand it that's the most recent insulator for the subtank full size don't own the others so not sure on those.

Whilst some vapers are very happy using Sony batteries Sony is anything but happy about their batteries being used by vapers specifically mech mod usage. There will not be a Sony vaping battery as long as the currant board are in place and despite the debacle they have just gone through no senior board member is at risk just yet. Personally I had two vtc 5's and both got quite hot charging and temps in use could get very high chain vaping and yes they were authentic not fakes others also found them a hot battery. Samsung 25R's are what I use now and they both perform better and cooler I don't really get the hankering for the vtc's with other equally good if not better alternatives plus I loathe giving money to a company that looks down at me .