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Post by vcmazz on May 7, 2016 11:58:54 GMT
Hi all, Now I know I'm a bit of a dinosaur but I'm still using cartomisers and reckon it's time to move on. Trouble is, I've tried various cheap clearomizers and find them to be either unreliable or plain rubbish (burnt taste, only 5 out of 10 work etc.) So, I don't really know what I'm doing, but I'm looking at buying a couple of Kanger EVOD Clearomizers and some replacement wicks. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible but I'm getting confused. Once I've bought the clearomizers, am I right in thinking they don't need replacing? I just replace the wicks as and when? See I've never used anything that wasn't 'all in one' disposable. Or is there a better buy for me? These are for use with standard 1100 mAh batteries. Nothing fancy. All advice gratefully received.
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Post by vcmazz on Nov 27, 2015 14:00:35 GMT
Thanks Jason, I've been looking for that answer for two months. Could you not have told me in your email? We took the decision not to do that until the company had closed vcmazzThat said, there has been a paragraph on our website for the past 3 years saying that our standard range was made by Hangsen (at the top of the 10ml and 30ml category pages), so it has never been a massive secret. Hangsen did make them to our spec/ratios though, so we couldn't guarantee that the same flavour from another supplier would taste 100% the same. Fair enough Jason. I was aware that "Deluxe Tobacco" was a Hangsen liquid, but not that "Dunhill" was the equivalent (or there abouts). I've been a good customer of yours over the past few years and just feel that you might have pointed me towards the Dunhill a bit earlier, but I'm sure you had your reasons. Hangsen, I have to say, were extremely unhelpful. I emailed them twice over a period of several weeks and haven't received a single reply. Still all's well that ends well. I've just taken arrival of some Dunhill from another company and it tastes the same to me.
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Post by vcmazz on Nov 25, 2015 20:52:15 GMT
I have always used VE deluxe tobacco liquid (18mg) since I started vaping. Now that very sadly VE are no more can anyone suggest a substitute and where I can get it from ? Thanks in advance Hangsen Dunhill should be very similar Thanks Jason, I've been looking for that answer for two months. Could you not have told me in your email?
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 21, 2012 16:18:07 GMT
This makes me realise I had better be a bit more careful, every time I fill a carto I use a paper hankie to wipe up any spilt liquid and to blow through but then just keep said hanky for use next time, and so it must be getting rather full of nicotine after a few days ( filling them up about twice a day) so I should use them as they are meant - disposable and throw it away after each use, I am a tight scot who hates waste Have you thought about using said hanky for a few weeks and then stuffing in to a cart and vaping it?
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 21, 2012 15:43:18 GMT
Some excellent answers there folks - thanks for your input. I shall stick to Radox and limit myself to two pints maximum if I'm driving and try not to worry so much .
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 21, 2012 5:39:52 GMT
Hi all,
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I can't seem to find it. I have one or two niggling worries and would welcome your views.
It concerns the safety information sent out by the wonderful VapeEscape with regards to E-Liquid. Two points in particular.
1) Toxic if swallowed.
2) Very toxic in contact with the skin.
Now. I'm sure most of us have overfilled from time to time and ended up getting liquid in the mush. And, if you have fat fingers like I do, well, this can be messy stuff! My poor old fingers have certainly come in to contact with small quantities of E-Liquid, I just find it impossible to avoid.
Are my fingers going to fall off? Am I going to turn green and glow in the dark? Should I be using rubber gloves? How serious a hazzard is this stuff?
What do we know ??? ?
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 16, 2012 2:08:14 GMT
Actually, in all seriousness, I don't rate it at all. Much happier with my Riva. But if anyone here is in to this type of thing and would like the kit, PM me and I will gladly send it to you free of charge. And I won't even ask you for your bank details . You'll need some cartos for it though.
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 16, 2012 1:28:04 GMT
im glad you got some sort of joy from them... they arnt exactly upfront about their charges but there are alot of companies that trade like this... if a deal seems too good to be true, then it usually is is the clearsmoker any good after all that ?? It's great! Wanna buy it?
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 16, 2012 0:30:06 GMT
i'll drop you a PM so i can take a look for you buddy Thanks Gordy, I've emailed you and here is a quick update for other readers ........ I've kind of had half a result. When I got no response to my email I eventually decided to take a deep breath and call them. After a bit of telephone tennis, I explained to the lady that we could argue all night, but that as she and I, and also the banks, are only too aware of their underhanded 'marketing strategy', it was futile as I wasn't going anywhere and she was being paid not to budge. So was she going to refund me or not? In the end she said she was prepared to offer me a £30 refund. Like any good 'Deal Or No Deal' player, I took the money . £60 is just too much me to lose right now - £30 is a little easier on the wallet. Even so, it is, and will forever in my mind remain, a complete and utter outrage. Now. Who wants a Clearsmoke starter kit for thirty quid? Cheap at half the price!
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 15, 2012 16:39:35 GMT
obviously people dont accept it readily enough or they wouldn't get caught by these 'scams' ask yourself why do you think they would give you anything for free ? I've already explained this. The offer is deceptively made to look as though the reason they would give you the pack for free is to encourage you to take out a monthly subscription of supplies. There are three subscriptions, but you have the option to opt out of all three, giving the impression that there will be no further charge unless you decide to order supplies from them. That is the very, very clever hook.the website in question offers a risk free trial however you wish to interpret risk it doesn't say the product if free. in fact clearly states you have 15 days to cancel and return the item or you will be charged £59.95 for it. No it does NOT. Did you receive this email? Because I can tell you it takes you to a very different page than the one you see on their website. Im sorry you got caught out or didn't read the info correctly but they are not really doing anything illegal. As I said before, there is far more to the legal side of this than whether or not they have successfully hoodwinked me in to 'signing' for something I didn't want to sign to, such as deception, fraud and general business ethics. So we shall have to agree to differ and let Trading Standards decide. if your email actually says free trial then you may have a case and expect the item to in fact be free. Indeed it does. I will gladly forward this email to anyone who would be interested in seeing it. Just PM me your email address and I'll send it on.
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 15, 2012 15:06:01 GMT
nothing is free - just my 2 pence worth A bit of a myth that people readily and wrongly accept as fact. There is a lot out there that is free and I therefore see your 2p and raise you 4p. Even if we accept and go along with the theory that 'nothing is free', does that give companies like Clearsmoke the right to deliberately misdirect and decieve people with the obvious intention of trying to trick them out of money? Just because what they do may be technically legal, that doesn't make it ethical. I would suggest there is a big question mark over it's legality anyway because whilst the victim may have unwittingly agreed to let them pillage his or her bank account (and therefore they may not have broken a law there), there is more than one legal aspect to consider with their nasty, snidey little operation and deception and fraud are still offences in this country. I haven't had a reply to my email as yet and I won't ring them at this stage because I am incapable of remaining calm and rational with what would no doubt be their list of stock answers on the telephone. I would just lose it so it's best I don't call. I will give them until the end of the day and if they haven't replied I will email them again, giving them until close of business tomorrow to to confirm that they have refunded my money before reporting the matter to Trading Standards as domesticextremist suggests.
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 15, 2012 2:58:48 GMT
It only took a few days for their '£60 kit ' that would have cost £16 or £17 elsewhere for something simular to arrive. I've just been reading up elsewhere. It seems this email link took me to a page not on view at the main site (makes sense I guess, as the 'free offer' wasn't available on their main site. It would also appear that on none of the pages I was directed to was there a link to their terms and conditions, or anything at all about this '15 day, return or pay' arrangement and the only place it could be found was on a tiny link on the order confirmation email which nobody is likely to check. Seriously unpleasant people and I shall be looking at consumer groups that might be able to take action if they don't refund my money. I guess first things first. Let's see what they have to say.
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 15, 2012 2:23:22 GMT
Looks as if it was one of those "trial the ecig, return it if you don't like it, or pay 59.95 to keep it" jobbies. Whilst I feel sorrry for you, and it is harsh on you, as it seems you didn't read the offer properly. It is in all their terms and conditions, ( clearsmoke.co.uk/faqs.aspx#witrft ) and they wouldn't have continued to take money from your card, just payment for the goods you trialled and decided to keep. which is not the scam this thread is talking about. So I think it is a little unfair to name and shame them in the same light as the scam companies. just my opinion though. Whilst their sales tactics are a little shady, they do seem like a fairly reputable company, and if you keep contacting them, and return the goods, you may be able to get a refund. You are of course entitled to your opinion. Yes, this information can be found deep within the bowels of their terms and conditions but they deliberately mislead people. Nowhere else on the email I received or on their main site was there any mention of any further payment being taken. It is deliberately designed to look like a 'loss leader', the intention being that they give you something for free in the hope that you subscribe for monthly supplies. This is what makes it look plausable to the victim. It is deliberate deception at best, a fraudulant scam at worst. They certainly deserve to be named and shamed and indeed anyone connected to them should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and their devious practices. Ask yourself these questions. Are these people deliberately trying to trick people out of hard earned money? If not, why are they not upfront about the deal on their main pages and emails? Why bury them deep in the terms and conditons? Is that reputable behaviour? Out and out theiving, conning scammers. That is my opinion.
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 15, 2012 2:06:24 GMT
Will do. I've sent them a very strong email but I've since Google searched 'Clearsmoke scam' and I think I'll be getting a stock reply (if any) about how it was in their terms and conditions. I'll follow that up with a phone call but will no doubt hit the same brick wall.
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Post by vcmazz on Feb 15, 2012 1:26:20 GMT
Thank you. It's a company called Clearsmoke. clearsmoke.co.uk/I'm going to hound them for my money back but I know it's unlikely. I'll keep you posted of any developments. To give you even more of an idea as to how devious they are, when you apply for their 'free trial', you suddenly find that you have to pay £7.95 p&p. If you then decide not to go ahead and try to close the page, you get a 'wait - don't go, just pay £4.95' message. VERY unlike me to fall for something like this. I was very tired. :-[
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