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Charlie, with interaction like this, you, and your 'new' business, will do very well, and I wish you every success. I wouldn't worry too much on whether things are real or fake, when deciding what to sell, as I said, its a good thing that vendors can bring us cheaper versions that work. And if you can source cheaper products, that do work almost as well as the original, then there is every reason to do just that, especially as you are selling them at a price that reflects this (unlike some vendors who sell the cheaper versions at the full price )

But I do think it is a good move for vendors to name the manufacturer, and whether or not they are the originals, such as what you've chosen to do by informing customers that they are not joyetech twists. That empowers the customer with accurate information for them to base their decisions on, and I'm sure it won't put us bargain hunters off, but will help us to keep in mind the reason why they are cheaper. A very open, honest, and just all round good move IMO.

As for these twists, to summarise, if they are like the 1100mah ones I have that look similar, they are well worth the money you are asking, no they aren't quite joyetech, don't last as long, but the price reflects that, also they do work well, and do the job intended, so these seem like a good deal to me.

Tried another card, no joy, tried deleting cookies, no difference, I hate paypal, paypal hates me

Now I've got to find someone to make the payment for me

Thanks perps

I tried to order but paypal wont accept my (actually the missuses) card.... It keeps doing this on and off, despite there being money in there Have posted on froggy's thread to see if I can pay any other way.

Cheers perps, a shot would be 25ml, so around a 50/50 mix then?

Thanks you two, I will retry the boots one with vodka, I always have vodka in the house, had been put off by the potential for extra throat hit from vodka, but I shall just give it a go, suck it and see.

Now then, the question is, Vladivar, or Russian Standard?

EDIT: Ohh what percentage Vodka do you add?

Oh dear, what did I start here?

I meant no offence to the vendor, and didn't even intend to put the OP off buying, as I said, they are worth the price, despite not being genuine joyetech. I just wanted to answer the question originally posted "is this real?" and also point out that the genuine Joyetech "twists" (and yes, it was the "twist" part that I was calling fake, a copy, stolen name, as Ego, could define the thread type ) were in my experience much better. But then they are more expensive too.

Whilst we're on the subject of fairness to vendors though, how about fairness to manufacturers too. My main concern with these cheap copies, is that because they are not as good, people may try them and think that they are not all they're cracked up to be, maybe even give opinions based on this within these forums to new users, when those opinions are based on the cheap fake version, and not the joyetech product, which is much better. I'm almost certain this has happened in the past, and I don't think that is fair to joyetech, who try to bring us the best products, of high quality, only for them to be imitated. Same goes for other manufacturers, smoktech, Vision and so on. Must be bad for them.

That said, I'm not against fakes, I think if someone can bring you a product for less, then that's a good thing, but people should remain aware of the differences, and the potential differences in quality, and should understand why the genuine versions cost more. Because they were created by the innovators who spent money coming up with the design in the first place, and are possibly manufacturing it to a higher standard.

/rant

I hope people understand what I was trying to say now, no offence intended to anyone, and if I wanted a twist right now, I wouldn't have any problems buying from Charlie at those prices. #icon_thumbsup#

Not too bothered about postage prices as much as vendors that don't make their prices clearly known before ordering.

It annoys me so much when you have to do a mock order to get even a rough idea of postage prices. Yes I understand some place don't use a flat rate, instead adopting a weight based structure, but if that's the case, create a page defining the different price ranges, surely that's not too much to ask is it?