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Post by alvoram on Nov 25, 2012 19:19:36 GMT
Thank you for the replies, I guess its a no then it's not just the vape time, although that is a big factor, it's also that I'm a tight sod. an 18650 will last longer than a smaller battery in terms of product life under comparable usage, as the life of a battery is measured in cycles (how many times it is recharged) and you're obviously going to be recharging a smaller battery more often. And therefore replacing it more often. Not only that, but I also have a reasonable collection of different 18650's, so wouldn't need to buy any more batteries for the time being. (Although I need to buy some panny 18650 flat tops for the zmax, but that's another story.) I wish they'd just made the full size provari look like the mini, but bigger... the mini is far better looking, or am I just being petty? for £150ish I don't think I am, but maybe others think I am, lol.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 25, 2012 19:09:39 GMT
I can't remember which one you got Karma, was it not the L-Rider V4?
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Post by alvoram on Nov 25, 2012 19:07:29 GMT
Don't forget to use the discount code on ecigwiz, AAEC for 13% off I like my black LTs, I've seriously fallen out with my new 'improved' chrome one thanks for the codes is the chrome one very different? it's a shame if it is because I would be more inclined to go for the chrome all chromes are not made equal... the L-rider lambo V4 chrome lavatube from vapeescape is by far the best one of my collection of LT's...
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Post by alvoram on Nov 25, 2012 18:30:15 GMT
I've had the money saved to buy a provari for a while now, and with the prices down at the minute, its probably a good time to buy one, but one small detail keeps on putting me off. Is it possible to get the full size provari V2, in the same design as the mini? I mean with the pits/dimples as grips rather than the ugly dildo lines? I would absolutely have to have the option of using an 18650 battery, but I much prefer the look of the mini (nothing to do with size, just the grips!) I know kir has made an 18650 extension for the mini, but tbh, it turns the provari from a looker, into quite possibly the ugliest PV I've ever seen, sorry kir Is there a solution?
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Post by alvoram on Nov 25, 2012 17:00:33 GMT
it was thought of astral, but I'm unsure if it was ever done.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 25, 2012 15:06:08 GMT
It's a completely different beast to the nova VM, you have to build and oxidise your own stainless steel mesh wicks for this, and then wind your own coils. In general, genesis atties, when you master them, are much better than clearos, but some people would suggest that you spend a little more on an all stainless steel version.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 22:39:32 GMT
The blood in the sink drives it home doesn't it (That is blood right?) But I just want to reiterate that these things generally only happen when you misuse the cells, knowingly, by mistake, or more worryingly through ignorance. Follow the rules and I'm confident in saying you have very little to worry about.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 22:13:22 GMT
okay, cool, thanks. I can't seem to find any examples where a single, quality battery failed in a commercial device. Could you give me some links? I thought a single cell failure was almost a zero possibility, if this is not correct, please enlighten me. Thanks in advance. I That is not correct no, a single cell is much, much safer than stacked batteries, but they can fail, any Lithium battery CAN fail, protected, unprotected, IMR, safer chemistry whatever, it can fail. You need to learn the dangers of lithium batteries before using mods. Do not over charge them, Do not use when under charged, Do not use them if they've been physically damaged, and definitely DO NOT SHORT them.... Do any of these things and there is a risk of the battery failing. Some of these things are prevented by the protection circuitry built into some batteries. Some mods have this protection circuitry built into them which means you can use unprotected batteries. But remember, nothing is perfect, even protected batteries can fail, if their protection fails. As I've said before, it's not something to worry about, as long as you treat them with respect, and follow the rules, THEN the chances of failure are almost zero. Oh and as you requested, here you go... www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.htmlAnd a whole forum dedicated to instances of lithium cell failures, that should be just about enough reading www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?107-Smoke-and-Fire-Hot-Cells-and-Close-Calls-The-dangerous-side-of-batteries
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 17:20:54 GMT
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 16:41:53 GMT
Gonna prestige tomoz And I'm certainly not that good, just can't be bothered watching soaps You on again tonight mat?
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 16:04:54 GMT
Yaay I prestiged ... then I realized it doesn't mean I'm any good just I have far to much time to waste lol bumma! Yeh, thanks for that... I'm nearly prestige 2 And I agree, it doesn't mean I am any good lol. I have some shockingly bad games
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 15:58:25 GMT
you will have less battery life. That is the only real diff.No its not, as per the good advice given above your post, the real difference is that protected batteries have protection in them to protect against things like undercharge / overcharge, IMR batteries do NOT have this protection. When using a mechanical mod, or any other mod without protection circuitry built in, it is wise to have this protection
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 14:12:49 GMT
Tbh, this trustfire charger seems good and charges up my other crappy batteries fine. It makes a tiny bit of noise when they are fully charged but so have a lot of my nicd chargers including a £40 smart charger. I'm only considered about the dent in the bottom of my battery it's made. Btw, 30 min of vaping 2.8ohm at 4.6v and it's still at 4.1v my 18350s would be dead by now lol Mine too chiller, not had a problem at all with it. TBH I find all this xtar fanboyism quite funny, it wasn't so long ago that everybody was recommending the trustfire as the affordable but decent charger to have, xtars appear on the scene and now all of a sudden the trustfires are death traps and only fit for the bin. If you want a really good charger, that uses a true CC/CV algorithm (which some xtars DO NOT, despite being advertised as such!!!! www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?307580-Xtar-WP2-and-MP1-(18650-Chargers)-Review-Comparison-to-Pila-DSD-DX-6105-Chargers) then the Pila is the charger for you. IF you do buy an xtar WP2, make sure it is the second edition
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Post by alvoram on Nov 24, 2012 13:53:19 GMT
it's fine for me Greg, although this is just over an hour after you asked.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 23, 2012 21:00:17 GMT
Mine has never charged my batteries all the way up to 4.2, 4.1 is what I get, and I prefer it that way. I'd be worried if it charged to 4.2V, with it reading to 1 decimal, that it may be over 4.25 (the upper limit) so I'd have to check it on a MM that displays voltages to 2dp. But that is purely down to paranoia, lol, not suggesting anybody else has to do this. I was also under the impression that not charging to maximum, or discharging to minimum increases the life span of the battery, though I'm not sure about that..
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