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Post by alvoram on Nov 23, 2012 20:50:44 GMT
Ant this has been known since the 1940's I think... They use, or used, it in hospital air conditioning systems to keep air born bacteria levels down, and stem the spread of contagious ailments.
EDIT: Just read that this was your point, teach me to read a topic title and not the message itself, lol...
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Post by alvoram on Nov 22, 2012 18:57:36 GMT
part of it is a phone call to verify your account you get a pin to add,cards thye add i think 1p or so to your account,but never done that limits on mine is £1500 a yr sending amount ,it resets every yr to max send limit Yeah they send a random amount of pennies to your account so that it shows up on your statement, with a 4 digit pin and PayPal reference. All straightforward enough. they sent 2 small sums to my account, and I had to enter the amounts, simple really, and I got a few pence free cash into my account off paypal, every little helps
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Post by alvoram on Nov 22, 2012 15:18:46 GMT
I'll be getting it with that £24.99 offer, thanks for pointing it out martym.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 21, 2012 12:22:22 GMT
Well, I'm sure everyone has elements of government spending with which they don't agree*, but a system whereby we pick and choose what taxes we will or won't pay based on how they are spent is unworkable. No two people will have the same set of preferences.Using that as a pretext for not paying tax is a cop-out, if you don't agree with how the government is spending our cash then the answer is to vote for somebody else who will spend it more appropriately. Apathy is far too prevalent and will never fix anything - the politicians love it when we shrug our shoulders and do nothing.. *I object to the billions of pounds we have spent driving nuclear warheads around underneath the sea for the last few decades, for instance, though others are fine with it. You're right of course for the most part, we do all have different ideas, and that's healthy, but there are things which the majority would agree on. For instance, you'd struggle to find a good percentage of people that WANT to pay excessive expenses for MP's and bail outs to businesses that can still afford to pay massive bonuses, before they repay their bailouts. Although I'm not saying that anyone should avoid paying their taxes. I'm saying that instead of constantly increasing taxes on us, they need to review some of the ways in which that money is spent. And yes, for me, that would include having a look at Trident, for the time being, at least. Why do we need to have a nuclear deterrent? Its well known that if we ever fire one, be it the nuclear or none nuclear tipped missile, Other nuclear capable countries would not be able to tell the difference, and we'd be in danger of accidentally starting a nuclear war. So they are completely useless except for the deterrent part. And the deterrent part I don't understand either, that attitude just creates a vicious circle IMO, but I'm not going to get into that, here. Dom, we're in danger of taking this thread off topic, if we haven't already. So, back on topic, I'm just going to say to close, That most of us have, or do, avoid paying some taxes, at some point, no matter how big or small, and that IMO, leaves us without a leg to stand on when it comes to taking offence at other people's tax avoidance.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 21, 2012 0:46:10 GMT
Thumbs up... Anyone willing to 'illegally' avoid import duty, yet boycott companies 'legally' paying reduced, or no, taxes is guilty of double standards, and being a hypocrite in my book. Scale has nothing to do with it! Money talks, I'll go where it's cheapest, so amazon is in, google is in, china imports are in, strabucks is definitely out (except for the odd treat ) In absolute terms you are right, but in relative terms we are talking about a difference between a few hundred quid (say, for a group buy, which you aren't guaranteed to escape) versus hundreds of milliions. i.e. 5 or 6 orders of magnitude difference. Part of the reason these large multinationals can undercut and ultimately bankrupt local small businesses is the competitive advantage they get from large scale tax avoidance. So whilst cheap is good, it has a wider cost in terms of local business and industry. At thee end of the day we need to have a bit more grown up attitude about tax. Nobody likes paying it, but we all like the kind of civilized society we live in and that costs money. Moreover, every penny of revenue avoided by these companies is another penny that needs to be raised from somebody else (usually you and I). Sadly, successive governments have either encouraged their behaviour and/or have dragged their feet about changing the rules to eliminate it. It's up to us therefore to do something about it - both by nagging our lawmakers and boycotting the most rapacious offenders. I'd much rather see those we elect (and pay) to represent us occupy their time and energy bringing these folks to book than dreaming up ever more pettifogging rules and regulations to inflict on the general public - such as new rules for tobacco display or medicalisation of e-cigarettes, wouldn't you? It's not just a case of a few hundred quid though is it, it's millions and millions the government miss out on through customs. Not only that, but what we do is illegal, knowingly accepting a parcel imported with an incorrect valuation, but we all do it, happily, me included. I still think to take offence to anyone, or any other entity avoiding tax, quite legally too, is really hypocritical. Unfortunately, regardless of the moral conflict, I still have to buy cheap. If those poor little businesses find a way to get me what I need at an affordable price, then I will support them, just look at ecig vendors, the smaller suppliers usually manage to undercut the bigger suppliers, and it's them I buy from. I agree that, for the most part we all like the society we live in. But tax doesn't need to be so high in the first place, far too much of it lines the pockets of too few people, if you understand what I'm trying to say. I don't mind paying taxes for Police, Fire, schools and so on, but I do not like paying tax to pay for the second homes of MP's, their other expenses, or bailing out banks that can still afford to pay huge bonuses to undeserving people. I could go on, but I'm sure you agree, far too much money is wasted. I'd definitely agree with your last paragraph.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 23:39:22 GMT
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 17:17:12 GMT
Tesco do their own version of cinnamon Graham's and they are nearly as nice and kits cheaper Tesco are also evil. But probs less evil than Nestle (it wouldn't be hard after what they did), so I'll keep my eyes out for the Grahams, thanks for the heads up. Nestle probably make tesco's variant, albeit with a slightly different process
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 16:38:01 GMT
In short, I am NOT in the Nigel out camp. I see the sense in building slow, financial stability, and steady progress. He makes mistakes, and has a lot to learn, but given the tools at his disposal, I think he is doing a good job, not great, but good. You a Derby fan? Just a football fan? Or (say it quietly) a fan of another local team?
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 16:02:10 GMT
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 15:52:35 GMT
Rob perhaps it would be a good idea to introduce yourself before recommending a vendor, I'm not accusing you of anything, but others may perceive you signing up and choosing this as your first post as a sign that you are in some way affiliated with the vendor, just my opinion.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 15:48:32 GMT
Don't worry about hijacking, it's all relevant anyway, Trolling, bullying, all the same thing.
I don't really watch it myself booblay, I stopped watching after Leona, I just knew no act would ever top that, and I was right in terms of talent. I had a vested interest in last years show, knowing of Niall from the 1D boys, and him and his Dad being long time regular supporters at Derby, and I have to admit, they've done really, really well for themselves, but in terms of talent, leona was surely the pinnacle. Anyway I'm going off track here, my missus watches it, and I've heard and seen a lot of flack thrown Rylans way, Yet apart from his over the top celebrations when he is put through, he seems a reasonably shy type, so it was nice to catch the 10 minutes in which he stood up to Garry.
I hate bullies, I don't know how people can go out of their way to make other peoples lives a misery. I'm not a saint, I have caught myself a few times saying things I regret to people, without thinking first, and I've felt awful for ages afterwards, so how people can do it deliberately, and actually get a kick out of it, is beyond me.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 14:01:23 GMT
I find Todd's logic *rse-backwards here - purely because, comparing the comments I see left on youtube videos to the comments left on sites such as ukvapers and aeec....well, there is a world of difference. It's the people on youtube who are the most vicious and moronic, whereas on this site people sort of know each other and there is less anonyminity, and they're alot nicer....mind you, maybe there are other vape forums I haven't seen filled with absolute tossers...and maybe Todd plans to disable the comments section on his YT vids, if this is possible....well, he has his reasons. Either way, it is a shame to see Todd leave. His vid on coiling an SS wick on the genny clone was super-helpful and he seems so down to earth and nice. I look forward to seeing his new reviews and tutorials in whatever shape and form they come. It's all this cowardly vindictive trolling which has stopped me watching X Factor. I get so sick of watching contestants being torn to shreds via the internet, I don't care how annoying/untalented/arrogant/diva-ish the contestant is, it's just desktop bullying. Well said. I enjoyed seeing Rylan stand up for himself against Gary, Gary was shocked, you could tell he isn't used to people telling him what they really think. Wasn't exactly a Rylan fan before, but he gets my vote for that alone, apart from the fact I wanted ella to win..
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 13:55:31 GMT
Just a note to say I won't be online until 9:30 tonight Life getting in the way again #icon_rofl# When you get used to playing with each other in a team ragjoy, it really does become the only way you'll want to play, it's much more fun, and a lot easier, you can get to the point where you hardly ever lose a game, takes a while, but as the team gets used to each other, and more experienced, they get harder to beat.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 13:21:32 GMT
got mine back on, without any problems You just have to be careful when removing it, and use a really thin, sharp blade, working your way around, very slowly, until there is a small gap, then you can use something a bit bigger and quicker. Just presses back on. But if you can do the work you need to do from the battery end, it makes no sense to remove it anyway.
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Post by alvoram on Nov 20, 2012 13:17:29 GMT
What am I doing in this thread, I've already seen it b u m p
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