NJoy King launches in the UK this month.

[Matt Gluggles]

The top selling electronic cigarette in the USA is set to launch here in the UK this month.

The NJoy King, a disposable e-cig, with a real cigarette look and feel and taste and packed with a storming and satisfying 45mg juice - is ready to go.

NJoy claim that they will make cigarettes obsolete, and plan to have sales of the NJoy King outstripping cigarettes within 10 years.

www.conveniencestore.co.uk/news/e-cigs-to-render-traditional-cigarettes-obsolete/238408.article







This is the one.

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And, of course, I could not resist the opportunity of re-posting this :

"relax, it's a f*cking NJoy" - classic !

[matt1988]

Not another f*cking cig-a-like! And with 45mg of juice, just what we need with us saying the average user uses 18mg juice!

[Banky]

Not cheap at £150 a pop, for one battery and look's like a cigarette and 45mg of nicotine
I have tried vaping at 34mg nic and it me physically sick.

[markm]

Oh great, do they not understand what's happening, that is just feeding the enemy, idiots!

[lenny59]

Apr 17, 2013 20:00:10 GMT Banky said:

Not cheap at £150 a pop, for one battery and look's like a cigarette and 45mg of nicotine
I have tried vaping at 34mg nic and it me physically sick.

£150 ?

You are joking ...Yes ?

[Banky]

That's what they are estimating it will cost.

[Darkginger]

This is sheer madness! It looks like a cig, it's 45 mg nic, and it costs £150???

[matt1988]

On their website, a 3 pack of Njoy kings are $26. Where did you hear £150 @banky ?

[djs]

I'm not so unhappy. (DJS runs for cover).

They are about $9 to buy (each, in a 3-pack ($27)), so presumably they will be a similar price (in £) over here.

As for 45mg; I could see people genuinely NOT suffering in the way I suffered using E-Lites from nicotine withdrawal. OK, so it might seem a lot, but with less vapour and low power/high resistance combo, 45mg doesn't seem impractical to me. At least the nicotine yield would not be an out and out lie.

??

[lobeydosser]

There are vapers on here that use 45mg e-juice.

Indeed I have seen a video review that recommends smokers when first coming off cigarettes use e-juice as high as 45mg in the initial stages, especially if they can only grab a few tokes now and then.

I personally have 30mg and 36mg e-juices for use on certain occasions.

I would rather see wannabe ex-smokers trying e-cigs and finding them almost overpowering, than the more usual scenario where they are completely underwhelmed by them and return to smoking cigarettes in disgust.

[Moggy]

Apr 17, 2013 21:23:42 GMT lobeydosser said:

There are vapers on here that use 45mg e-juice.

Indeed I have seen a video review that recommends smokers when first coming off cigarettes use e-juice as high as 45mg in the initial stages, especially if they can only grab a few tokes now and then.

I personally have 30mg and 36mg e-juices for use on certain occasions.

I would rather see wannabe ex-smokers trying e-cigs and finding them almost overpowering, than the more usual scenario where they are completely underwhelmed by them and return to smoking cigarettes in disgust.

Appreciate where you're coming from, but 45mg is a massive jump from 18mg which is what has been quoted as 'the norm' to the EU. The uneducated are going to see that and scream "INFIDELS !!!!"

[matt1988]

Apr 17, 2013 21:33:06 GMT Moggy said:

Apr 17, 2013 21:23:42 GMT lobeydosser said:

There are vapers on here that use 45mg e-juice.

Indeed I have seen a video review that recommends smokers when first coming off cigarettes use e-juice as high as 45mg in the initial stages, especially if they can only grab a few tokes now and then.

I personally have 30mg and 36mg e-juices for use on certain occasions.

I would rather see wannabe ex-smokers trying e-cigs and finding them almost overpowering, than the more usual scenario where they are completely underwhelmed by them and return to smoking cigarettes in disgust.

Appreciate where you're coming from, but 45mg is a massive jump from 18mg which is what has been quoted as 'the norm' to the EU. The uneducated are going to see that and scream "INFIDELS !!!!"

This! Especially as the EU can't see facts from blatantly falsified documents! This is just another reason why the EU will ban it. At the moment they are erming and arghing whether 18-36mg/ml is dangerous, and that is not the 'norm' and not easily sourced in premixed form, and not available in pre-filled. (The higher bracket)

With these you would have pre-filled cigarettes, very easily accessible, and have almost the majority of the US market stating "we will make tobacco obsolete" and these have a level of nic content higher than what less than 5%(?) of the vaping community at 45mg/ml!

I'm sorry but I think Njoy now have just put the final nail in the coffin for vapers across Europe!

So what pharmacy stocks the best quality e-liquid  

[lobeydosser]

There are a lot of things being "quoted" in Brussels, most of them wrong.

Personally I am more interested in getting cigarette smokers into the vaping scene than being politically correct with the Sprouts that work in Brussels.

There have been a number of Chemicals banned by Brussels and subsiquently also banned by the UK Government, but they are still available from certain suppliers because they are still for sale in the USA.

Now far be it for me to even suggest that such a thing would happen to Nic Base (????) but where there is a need, there will always be a way.

[matt1988]

Apr 17, 2013 21:48:35 GMT lobeydosser said:

There are a lot of things being "quoted" in Brussels, most of them wrong.

Personally I am more interested in getting cigarette smokers into the vaping scene than being politically correct with the Sprouts that work in Brussels.

There have been a number of Chemicals banned by Brussels and subsiquently also banned by the UK Government, but they are still available from certain suppliers because they are still for sale in the USA.

Now far be it for me to even suggest that such a thing would happen to Nic Base (????) but where there is a need, there will always be a way.

A year ago I would have agreed with you, maybe even 6 months. But with the new TPD due in September this product wont bring in enough new vapourers to outweigh the negatives. If it had been a year ago I would have said let's bring it on, the more the merrier (I do still think that), but with Njoys coming on to the scene what we are fighting for is almost like a moving goal post. We are saying 18mg/ml is normal, most pre-filled cartos have between 16-24mg/ml in them. 

Suddenly we now have to defend a carto holding nearly double that top end, being sold in garages, pubs/clubs, supermarkets etc.

Even if Njoys don't come over right now, they have made their intent known, and EU will see it that they will come over here, and take all the tax back to the US whilst not making any tax on tobacco (if that one of their agendas). 

Now I'm not saying to give up and stop chasing a red herring, as it most definitely isn't, and we should continue to work our hardest. Just that now the goal posts have moved, which may make it much tougher to sway the undecided MEP's.

Or maybe I am just being melodramatic  

[Moggy]

Mind you, it could swing it the other way. If higher mg cigalikes make it on to the market over here, then our 18mg is pretty low in comparison.

Yay Njoy !!

They call me Mungo, Mungo the Contradictory.
Do they ?
No.