all please watch first 11 mins (i totally agree)

[richo71]

A PBursado rant and he makes some great points, please watch and comment. 
I wholeheartedly agree with everything he says.

[Deleted]

I watched this last night and completely agree with all points.

[matt1988]

Yeh I agree fully too with what he says.

[Greigster]

+1, he talks a lot of sense. I fear for our future.

[richo71]

The future has been decided today and 2016 all nic products will only be available at a pharmacy and in much less mg levels than we are using today, i fear for the vendors, as i will not be buying lots of equipment from now on as it will become useless

[djs]

I enjoyed watching. I too agree. Regardless of today's decision/plan/direction, he talks sense to me.

[Roger]

Jun 12, 2013 14:44:00 GMT richo71 said:

The future has been decided today and 2016 all nic products will only be available at a pharmacy and in much less mg levels than we are using today, i fear for the vendors, as i will not be buying lots of equipment from now on as it will become useless

Links to this please, or proof at least.

[giles]

Enjoying to watch, but I don't think I agree. I stealth smoked sometimes, I stealth vape sometimes. Mostly its just a matter of not rubbing peoples' noses in it, but I'll circumvent rules if I think they are stupid. Nothing I do is going to cause a bomb alert

[djs]

Jun 12, 2013 16:01:37 GMT giles said:

Enjoying to watch, but I don't think I agree. I stealth smoked sometimes, I stealth vape sometimes. Mostly its just a matter of not rubbing peoples' noses in it, but I'll circumvent rules if I think they are stupid. Nothing I do is going to cause a bomb alert

Yes. Agreed.

he tells a story of "stealth" vaping with a person on a plane with a pipe bomb and an LCD screen and lots of vapour....well, that's not stealth. ???

[Promethian]

I would like to input on this.

I dont make much vapour when I vape, Generally I vape 60/40 PG/VG.

However whenever I have watched review video's there seems to be a consensus that it is good when a device, produces a lot of vapour??? (Or indeed when an ejuice is reviewed.)

To me this is daft... why piss eveyone off with clouds of vapour?

There also seems to be a leaning to acclaim extreme taste, which is kind of self defeating, as your taste buds very soon acclimatise and you dont taste the extreme anymore... in fact I think you wreck your taste buds.

To me subtle flavours are much better. You soon learn to apppreciate them.

[lobeydosser]

I too agree with the video. But, for some people, lots of vapour means "better" satisfaction for them.

Personally I just want my flavour and my nicotine kick and throat hit and vapour do not mean a lot. But that's just me.

[womble]

Agree about the stealth vaping, especially on planes.

[matt1988]

I don't think PBursado was aware of this scare here in the UK. I know this went off in a bag, but the same situation can apply

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/9379894/Terror-of-passengers-on-bomb-scare-bus.html

[fecked off]

Jun 12, 2013 17:43:21 GMT Promethian said:

I would like to input on this.

I dont make much vapour when I vape, Generally I vape 60/40 PG/VG.

However whenever I have watched review video's there seems to be a consensus that it is good when a device, produces a lot of vapour??? (Or indeed when an ejuice is reviewed.)

To me this is daft... why piss eveyone off with clouds of vapour?

There also seems to be a leaning to acclaim extreme taste, which is kind of self defeating, as your taste buds very soon acclimatise and you dont taste the extreme anymore... in fact I think you wreck your taste buds.

To me subtle flavours are much better. You soon learn to apppreciate them.

Why do I like exspresso and the wife likes mocha... It's because we are different people. I take it you've never vapes at 20+ watts don't knock it till you've tryed it

[lobeydosser]

<<<There also seems to be a leaning to acclaim extreme taste, which is kind of self defeating, as your taste buds very soon acclimatise and you dont taste the extreme anymore... in fact I think you wreck your taste buds.

To me subtle flavours are much better. You soon learn to apppreciate them.>>>

I'm not sure what you mean by "extreme tastes" but if you mean strong flavours, then I am all for that!

I find that most descriptions of flavours whether printed on the label or reviewed by other members are either so subtle as to be non existent or completely different to what I was expecting.

Indeed recently I got my flavours and my e-juices mixed up and found two, what I thought were e-juices, just right. It was a few days later before I found out I was vaping flavour concentrates rather than e-juices.

So, for me, the "subtle flavours" you can keep. The market is awash with these. So much so that the only flavours that I can appreciate are those I make up myself, for myself.
Likewise the amount of vapour I prefer.
But then again, is that not why we mix our own in the first place?
It is all about personal choice!  

However suggesting that other people's preferences for strong flavours is "extreme" or inferring that they will wreck their Taste Buds if they prefer strong flavours is, to me, total nonsense.

We are all in the very fortunate position where we can tailor our e-juices, strengths and flavours to suit ourselves and long may that continue.